Posted on 03/09/2012 4:33:00 AM PST by IbJensen
A person who unrepentantly indulges in and justifies such behavior, however, is eligible for no Sacrament except -- if they reject the sin --- Penance. (And Anointing if they are repentant and seriously ill.)
His Excellency, Bishop Barry Knestout
5001 Eastern Avenue
Hyattsville MD 20782-3447
Copy to:
Fr. Marcel Guarnizo
St. John Neumann Catholic Church
9000 Warfeld Road
Gaithersburg, MD 20882
Your Excellency:
I was disturbed when I read that Fr. Guarnizo had rudely refused Holy Communion to a woman at her mother’s funeral. It was only later that I realized that I had misjudged the situation by letting anti-Catholic secular press define it for me; that there was a lot more to the story; and that the lesbian Buddhist, Ms. Johnson, actually set a trap which many, including you, your Excellency, fell into.
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The denied communion was at the funeral Mass of her mother, which was why she was there to begin with.
That said, as both an unrepentant lesbian, which she made sure the priest Fr. Guarnizo *knew* before the Mass began, and now as it seems a non-Catholic as well, Fr. Guarnizo was eminently correct in his decision.
The Archbishop's reaction was most emphatically *not* proper, and this lunatic's DEMANDS that the priest be removed from a parish she is not a member of, and of a religion she doesn't practice are ludicrous on the face of it, and should be dismissed out of hand...
the infowarrior
If you are a Buddhist, why would you seek to receive the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ?
The Catholic Church does not dispense Communion to those who are not baptized in their faith.... If you choose to receive fraudulently it is considered an imperfect sacrament. This is my understanding of my own life long faith. I have respect for other faiths and would not presume to “crash” their worship rituals for any reason. Least of all to enhance my own ego.
Nor would I. I have never partaken of the Lord's Supper out side my own church. At my church, which is Baptist, only members of that particular church may partake. Not even members of other Baptist churches. I don't necessarily agree with that but those are the rules that I endorsed on becoming a member of that church.
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What kind of convoluted "Christian Church" would allow this? Under what reasoning?
Hi Graybeard, I am a catechist (means I teach children at Sunday school) in my Catholic parish and “state of grace” is the normal term we use to describe how one should be when taking Holy Communion. I believe it is a translation of the Latin which means not being unworthy and ready to meet the Lord, who to us is actually present in the bread and wine. It is not meant to be a challenge to anyone except those who know they have sinned and have not asked the Lord for forgiveness. While forgiveness is something we ask for in Confession through a priest we certainly can be forgiven by the Lord directly through prayer as any other Christian. We refer to Confession now as the Sacrament of Repentance to signify the true nature of our hearts when it is done.
1 Corinthians 11 is a very difficult chapter for ALL Christians as St Paul tells us here that a man should not “nourish” his hair (I assume using shampoo, combing, etc.) nor cover his head and he admonishes women that when praying they should have their heads covered, yet very few Christians obey this or many of the instructions in this chapter.
Mrs. Don-o, please let us know if you get a reply from the bishop. I’d love to know what he has to say in response to your excellent letter.
Regards,
I misspoke. I should have said Sacrament of Penance, which is the official name. Sacrament of Reconcilliation also works. Keep in mind that the Catholic Church is trying to get the English speaking churches more in line with the original Latin. We just had a MAJOR missal change in November as part of this.
This all started because I said that “state of grace” was not a phrase that I would use. I completely agree with what it means but one, perhaps with a chip on his shoulder or looking for an argument, took issue with that. I reiterated what I had already said plainly, then it was dropped.
Your reply was graceful and I appreciate that.
In my church we don’t have “sacraments” either. We have “ordinances” but I’m familiar with the phraseology and don’t have a problem with it.
Your examples of New Testament things that we don’t follow was accurate, I’ll add one. The woman, I believe her name was Mary, who anointed Jesus with expensive perfume.
I’m paraphrasing because I gotta get going but I believe Jesus said that we are supposed to be making mention of her and her deed a bit more often that is done in my church at least. Look also at what Jesus said when he washed His disciples feet. Our church doesn’t do that either, does yours?
I mentioned that my church was Baptist, we do not use wine in the Lord’s Supper, we use grape juice. By the way there’s another example, we say Lord’s Supper, You say Communion, We both know what the other means.
I heard my pastor say once, that John the Baptist didn’t drink wine and if it’s good enough for John, it was good enough for him. Totally ignoring a perfect example of the fact that Jesus Himself certainly did drink wine.
Gotta run, God bless you and yours richly, as he has me and mine.
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Here is the REST OF THE STORY about the homosexual pervert who was refused communion. She's not a Catholic, she's willfully and rebelliously engaged in sin, and she's an active advocate for perversion. Why is she teaching at a Catholic university, indeed. Interesting, she seems to not know or care that the Dalai Lama has said homosexuality is perverted and wrong! Some "Buddhist".
LJ, I think it has been obvious to those of us who pay attention... we’ve been infiltrated... and I am not talking about Catholics.. I am not one (Baptist, myself)... but those of us who have been watching/paying attention, we were warned (McCarthy)..
Sad that NOW it’s becoming obvious for more people.. :/
Excellent response. You are a role model for tactful and respectful dissent. Thank you.
Ms. Johnson may call herself a Buddhist, but she truly is a disciple of Barack Obama. She respects only her own will to do as she pleases regardless (or perhaps for the expressed purpose) of harassing, damaging, humiliating or forcing her own will on others. She is the personification of exactly what 50 years of government overstepping its bounds produces. She is to be pitied, and unless or until she decides that she is not the ultimate being to be pleased, shunned.
Excellent letter. I wonder if you’ll receive an answer.
Actually, at that point there is no bread and wine. The accurate presentation of this truth is Who to us is actually present under the appearance of bread and wine.
Are you Catholic? If so I have a question.
I attended a Catholic funeral yesterday and I had a question about something I did not understand. The family sat in reserved seating on one side and friends on the other. There were about 5 people in front of us on the friends side that were the only people that knew what was going on. They appeared to be workers at the church. They did not seem to know the family. When it was time for communion they went up on the platform and took communion (bread and wine). After they took communion, the priest came down in the aisle to the family and gave them only bread. I was just curious as to why the family went last and received only the bread. Do you know why?
The whole service was very interesting and very different than funeral services I have been to before. My husband and my father are both pastors and have officiated many funerals.
Thank you in advance.
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