Posted on 03/02/2012 11:01:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
With a bill like that, how many times does she have sex a day? First... she said $3,000 over 3 years. That's $1,000 a year, about $83 a month, which is about how much one month of birth control costs.
And birth control pills don't work on a per sexual encounter basis. Whether she has sex 20 times a day or once a month, the cost of birth control pills is the same.
“The problem is that the conservative line “Well, she is a slut!” isn’t going to play well with any neutral observer.”
Then the observer isn’t neutral...
She says she needs $1000/year for birth control. Amazon.com has condom delivered for 14 cents each - 7/dollar, or 7,000 condoms a year for the slut. That would be about 20 sex partners/day, all year.
Heck, maybe she isn’t a slut! Maybe she should be competing for ‘athlete of the year’...
“That’s $1,000 a year, about $83 a month, which is about how much one month of birth control costs. “
Try again. $9/month at Target, near Georgetown U.
But suppose it was $200 - why should others pay for her to have sex?
Well, we don’t buy generic and we also include my wife’s office visit cost for renewing her prescription.
But, OK... let’s say it costs $200, or $100, or $9.
Any of those amounts is cheaper than taxpayers providing food stamps and welfare for mothers who have unplanned pregnancies.
There is more to the story than you realize.
Using the word "slut" indicates a lack of tolerance for certain behavior, offending those that tolerate said behavior.
In essence, those lacking said tolerance is much like Islamists who would execute (stoning or head removal) an Islamic woman for driving a car.
In the Middle East, Americans are invited to Friday executions and given front row seats ... within range of the splattered blood.
“Any of those amounts is cheaper than taxpayers providing food stamps and welfare for mothers who have unplanned pregnancies.”
And why would we do that? Particularly for a woman attending a school that charges $50K/year in tuition...
I’m thinking back. Nope, my wife didn’t go on food stamps or welfare when she became pregnant.
“Using the word “slut” indicates a lack of tolerance for certain behavior, offending those that tolerate said behavior.
In essence, those lacking said tolerance is much like Islamists who would execute (stoning or head removal) an Islamic woman for driving a car.”
So if I think a woman having 1000 sex partners each year is bad behavior, I’m the equivalent of someone who wants to kill female drivers?
Why are you a member of FreeRepublic? Do you believe in ANY moral restrictions?
Thanks for the email address. The more I think about this situation the more galling I find this woman’s behavior before Congress. Did I read/hear she is on a free ride?
One moral principle I like is ... Judge and be prepared to be judged.
“One moral principle I like is ... Judge and be prepared to be judged.”
Yep - I’m ‘judging’ those who want me to pay them to have sex with someone else. And I am FULLY willing to be judged in the same manner as I am judging!
That’s awesome. But in this country, we don’t allow children to go hungry and homeless no matter how much of a loser the mother may be.
It’s cheaper to provide contraceptives.
“It’s cheaper to provide contraceptives.”
You get more of what you subsidize.
The idea that I need to pay for someone else to have sex is morally repugnant. If she gets pregnant - and she won’t, because she has plenty of money to pay for condoms at 14 cents a pop - then let her conceive and give birth. If she doesn’t want to raise the child, let her give the child up for adoption.
And no, it is NOT right for a wealthy woman going to one of the most expensive colleges in the US to demand that I pay for her pregnancy.
“You get more of what you subsidize.”
You mean enabling people to make good decisions about controlling when they conceive children?
Good!
“You mean enabling people to make good decisions about controlling when they conceive children?”
No, I mean about refraining from having sex unless they are willing to pay for it & the results themselves.
You see, paying for someone to have sex makes about as much sense as giving alcoholics free booze. It is ENABLING bad behavior.
Now I realize you find words like ‘bad’ frightening and judgmental. But when the slut wants me to pay for her contraception, she gives me the right to say how often, when & where she has sex. And I’ve decided that for her, the answer is NEVER.
Of course, if she wants to pay for her own sex, then my opinion won’t count...
I don’t find your use of words frightening or judgmental. I find them to be sad and simple-minded.
First, nobody is paying anyone to have sex. That’s ludicrous.
Second, comparing the coverage of contraceptives to providing booze to alcoholics is laughable. Birth control pills are a legitimate health care need for those who wish to be responsible in their reproduction.
Finally, no sir. Providing contraception does NOT give you the right to tell anyone how to run their sex life. Do you think paying medicare tax gives you the right to tell someone who gets a triple bypass when they can eat a cheeseburger?
What really gets me about people like you is that you think you can impose your morality because a few of your tax dollars would go toward this. And you keep parroting Rush Limbaugh, calling Fluke a slut when you really have no clue as to the reality of her sex life.
So maybe you are being judgmental, possessing far less than the facts required to pass judgment. You support government and public intrusion into this woman’s life because you (for whatever flawed reason) equate birth control to promiscuity. That makes you the worst kind of conservative. You want small government, but one just big enough to fit into all of our bedrooms.
“No, I mean about refraining from having sex unless they are willing to pay for it & the results themselves.”
And what about young married couples who don’t yet want to have kids? Or who find out that a genetic condition would make having children inadvisable?
Done.
“First, nobody is paying anyone to have sex. That’s ludicrous.”
No, it is not. She wants me to pay more, either in taxes or health insurance, so she can have sex with free birth control. That means I’m paying more so she can have sex.
“Birth control pills are a legitimate health care need for those who wish to be responsible in their reproduction.”
Then let THEM pay for them. I have no obligation to pay for their sexual activities.
“Providing contraception does NOT give you the right to tell anyone how to run their sex life. Do you think paying medicare tax gives you the right to tell someone who gets a triple bypass when they can eat a cheeseburger?”
Yes, it does. I strongly support the idea that those getting triple bypasses at my expense should be REQUIRED to lose weight, or pay for their own operation. Their harmful and dangerous lifestyle is not something I need to pay for -although under our current, unconstitutional government, I often do.
“What really gets me about people like you is that you think you can impose your morality because a few of your tax dollars would go toward this...”
Damn right! When I pay the bills, I get to call the shots. When she is mature enough to pay her own way, she can ignore me.
“You support government and public intrusion into this woman’s life because you (for whatever flawed reason) equate birth control to promiscuity.”
I have NO DESIRE to get into her bedroom or her life. SHE is the one insisting I do so. SHE is the one that wants me to pay the bills for her private behavior!
“You want small government, but one just big enough to fit into all of our bedrooms.”
Nope. Not unless invited. I don’t ask the government to pay for my birth control or pregnancies, so they have no right in MY bedroom. If I ever ask the government to fund my sex life, THEN I will be asking them into my bedroom.
Question for you - if the government needs to pay for people’s birth control, then where would YOU cut spending? What do YOU consider to be optional?
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