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Rick Santorum, Mr. Bipartisan Compromise and Mr. Pro Wrestling? {Praised Hillary/Boxer/Lieberman)
ABC News Political Punch ^ | 1/4/2012 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 02/19/2012 12:00:46 AM PST by JediJones

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To: Apollo5600
"So if Newt can’t win you will stay home?"


21 posted on 02/19/2012 1:35:41 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Gene Eric

Let’s pray we don’t come to the point where we end up with a Romney and Santorum ticket.

It’s the end of the country as we know it, and I honestly can’t say I’d bother to vote.


22 posted on 02/19/2012 1:37:23 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: DaxtonBrown
Greetings DB:

Hmmmm, waiting for the rabid Saint Santorum boosters to explain this one.

Frankly, on these 15 conservative issues there isn't a cent worth of difference between Newt and Rick. Either candidate would make a fine President; so why all the "Savage Love" for Rick Santorum?

1.) Repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
2.) Prohibiting abortion except where it is necessary to prevent death of the mother.
3.) Amending the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as only the union of one man and one woman.
4.) Permitting healthcare professionals to opt out of performing procedures that violate their moral or religious beliefs.
5.) Amending the U.S. Constitution to require Congress to balance the federal budget every year.
6.) Passing state laws that authorize local law enforcement officials to enforce federal immigration laws.
7.) Providing federal funding to Planned Parenthood and other organizations that provide abortions.
8.) Adding “sexual orientation,” “gender identity,” or “gender expression” to the protected classes of race, religion, age, sex, and ancestry in antidiscrimination laws.
9.) Allowing parents to use tax credits, vouchers, or educational savings accounts to enable children to attend any public, private, or home school.
10.) Setting a government cap on carbon emissions, requiring companies to buy emissions credits, and allowing them to trade any leftover credits (called “Cap and Trade”).
11.) Using a prospective federal judge’s ability to empathize with particular societal groups as a criterion for their nomination.
12.) Using human embryonic stem cells for research purposes.
13.) Repealing the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which states that marriage is the union of one man and one woman and declares states do not have to recognize same-sex marriage from other states.
14.) Enforcing federal laws vigorously against obscene hardcore pornography.
15.) Amending the federal Indian Gaming Regulatory Act to place further restrictions on the establishment and expansion of gambling by Indian tribes in the U.S.

Cheers,
OLA

23 posted on 02/19/2012 1:40:19 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

A major difference is that Newt has been so radically right, so historical a figure, a conservative who was the Reagan of the legislative branch, a true, famous, dyed in the wool right winger, that he can move around in the political world and rub shoulders with liberals and not take on the smell.

Lesser mortals, soft, moderate, more ambiguous political types, we don’t trust them so much, especially if we are a conservative who is still trying to figure out who they are, and is still not certain what their politics are, and where their true, internal self, is at.

Based on Gingrich being known as one of the greatest fighters in conservative history.
I can’t imagine someone who lived through the history making 1994 conservative revolution, forgetting that incredible national onslaught against it’s leader, Newt Gingrich, until Palin, we had never seen anything like it.

I still have boxes of publications and newspapers from the time, the rage from the left was terrifying, people died, were destroyed, the federal government was killing people and burning them out in the Midwest, and in what had previously been “flyover country”, the heartland.
The left was sending a message to middle America, that they were not outside the reach of Government and the new policies. Middle America was to be taught that their God, and guns, and tax complaints, and conservative rebellion would not be tolerated, the 1990s became a dark period of open war by the hard left as led by the Clintons, and the conservatives led by Newt Gingrich.

The media was as radical as sharks smelling blood, and Newt as the opposition leader, was it’s biggest target.


24 posted on 02/19/2012 1:53:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JediJones
Big Nooze should be loving this guy. A Conservative Republican who has worked with DemocRATS.

Why does this feel like a hit piece instead of an endorsement?

25 posted on 02/19/2012 2:01:29 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ansel12

Greetings ansells:

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. From my standpoint, neither candidate is “perfect,” both have their share of gaffs and bad judgement moments. Politically, I happen to like both Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum on the issues.

No one has accomplished more towards conservative reforms than Newt. And Rick has a very good conservative voting record too. By the official campaign positions, both candidates are equal and earn my vote on the conservative issues.

As you can see from the 15 conservative issues hyperlink, Newt could have easily focused upon Myth’s multiple choice positions on the campaign issues and remained focused upon the differences. But Newt couldn’t.

Unfortunately in 1993, Newt supported and even co-sponsored individual mandate health insurance legislation. On this individual mandate issue, Newt’s position resembles Myth’s: Mutiple-choice.

So Newt engaged in a disingenous, left-wing-style smear upon Bain Capital’s business model; as a strike back at Myth Romney’s smears.

Newt talked himself out of pole position that day. The BIG difference between Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich. Even under pressure Reagan always correctly identifies government as the problem, not the solution.

Still liking Newt, but now I support Santorum for President. Neither was my first choice. Both are worthy of my vote.

Cheers,
OLA


26 posted on 02/19/2012 2:51:12 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Apollo5600

Naw, he’s an empty Sweater Vest.:)

I heard her strongly supporting Newt again in a Fox interview today. I’m like you though, wishing she’d get on the campaign trail with him while it could still make a difference.


27 posted on 02/19/2012 3:03:01 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

This is a incorrect assessment of the type of character Newt has. Newt is the type of person who was driven from a very young age to reform the country. He really believes its his fate to shake things up for the betterment of the country.

Call it vanity if you will, but this is the type of character we need to change up Washington. And, frankly, his political history has always shown him to be an independent thinker. He doesn’t go with the flow.

Saint Rick does not come off like this. If anything, he is an opportunist seeking power for the sake of power. I base this on his deceptive behavior, in the way he has dishonestly attacked the other candidates early on, and his campaigning on family and social issues while claiming to be the “true conservative”, meanwhile he favors minimum wage, “Open Space” moderate nonsense, and thinking up ways to enforce censorship on video games or online porn.

These are two very different men. One has vision, the other is small minded. I choose Newt!


28 posted on 02/19/2012 3:09:28 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
So Newt engaged in a disingenous, left-wing-style smear upon Bain Capital’s business model; as a strike back at Myth Romney’s smears.

I missed that, care to focus a little more and explain how you turn the Reagan conservative into the villain now that you need to move Romney or Santorum into the White House?

Your left-wing style is shocking, how you would think that it would work against an American conservative hero is puzzling, to heck with the left.

29 posted on 02/19/2012 3:18:07 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: onyx

Newt was Clintons lapdog when Billy was POTUS..but lets not worry about that.


30 posted on 02/19/2012 3:33:10 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: ansel12
I missed that, care to focus a little more and explain how you...

No need for me to explain, WOF sez: "predatory corporate raider."

31 posted on 02/19/2012 3:44:32 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Yorlik803
Newt was Clintons lapdog when Billy was POTUS..but lets not worry about that.

Care to name the greatest conservative hero of the 1990s? Based on Gingrich being known as one of the greatest fighters in conservative history?

I can’t imagine someone who lived through the history making 1994 conservative revolution, forgetting that incredible national onslaught against it’s leader, Newt Gingrich, until Palin, we had never seen anything like it.

I still have boxes of publications and newspapers from the time, the rage from the left was terrifying, people died, were destroyed, the federal government was killing people and burning them out in the Midwest, and in what had previously been “flyover country”, the heartland.

The left was sending a message to middle America, that they were not outside the reach of Government and the new policies. Middle America was to be taught that their God, and guns, and tax complaints, and conservative rebellion would not be tolerated, the 1990s became a dark period of open war by the hard left as led by the Clintons, and the conservatives led by Newt Gingrich.

The media was as radical as sharks smelling blood, and Newt as the opposition leader, was it’s biggest target.

32 posted on 02/19/2012 3:47:15 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Apollo5600

Greetings Apollo5600:

The core of freedom is our individual liberty. “Independent thinker” Newt Gingrich did co-sponsor legislation in support of an individual mandate in 1993. That legislation went against conservative flow. An individual mandate forcing us to pay a health care tax just for waking up breathing in the morning, that’s quite the opposite of my definition of liberty.

This “independent thinker” label reminds me of McLame’s “Maverick” label.

Whenever a candidate adopts the left’s language, be it: open spaces, health care as a right, living wage, maverick, etc., they fall into a word trap.

Again, Newt is not perfect, nor is Rick. Both are much better than RuPaul or Myth. I’ll take any of them over 0bama.

Cheers,
OLA


33 posted on 02/19/2012 4:06:53 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Apollo5600

****These are two very different men. One has vision, the other is small minded. I choose Newt!****

OMG - just caught a snipped of Santorum speaking about “I have the GIFT of being underestimated”. He went on and on - all about himself. Not one word about his policies, proposals or plans for the future.

This man is another narcissist - a goody two shoes - and an immature right wing social engineer. He should have been a televangalist. He is NOT a fiscal conservative.


34 posted on 02/19/2012 4:14:52 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to bring America back from the brink.)
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To: flat

PSSSSST ricky you aint sposed to work WIF ‘em yer supposed to work AGIN ‘EM and their wacky ideas...


Well, that proves he is a “go along to get along” establishment RINO. Compromise is his motto and deception is his creed. He’s a true Republican.


35 posted on 02/19/2012 4:15:20 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

You seemed to miss one very important issue in your laundry list of “goodies” you think are important.

I looked, but didn’t see the one about turning our country around to abide strictly by the writings of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Most of what you posted had absolutely nothing to do with the granted rights bestowed on the federal government by these documents. They are state’s rights granted by the Constitution....not federal.


36 posted on 02/19/2012 4:20:19 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: JediJones
And Barbara Boxer and I wrote a law protecting open space

Just a guess ... was that the open space between Boxer's ears?

Sorry Rick, not buying it. You lay down with Democrats to pass STUPID legislation, you don't get my vote.

37 posted on 02/19/2012 4:37:12 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Apollo5600

So, you are saying that if you don’t have someone who meets every little detail of your standard you will stay home? You might as well vote for Obama and be done with it! God help our Republic!


38 posted on 02/19/2012 5:40:18 AM PST by gbscott1954 (Please come back Sarah!!!)
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To: JediJones
Here's our options: Romney, Gingrich, Santorum.

Pick the one, who'll do the most to restore the Constitution. With what I know, I'll pick Santorum.

I wish that DeMint, Inhofe, Palin or others had gotten in, but they didn't. Them's our choices, pick one.

39 posted on 02/19/2012 6:16:48 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: JediJones

Wow, ABC is testing the water with their best shot at nailing Rick in the primary. It seems everyone has a record of accomplishment except Dear Leader.

Everything they are touting is designed to anger and split the conservative base. I really don’t care if it’s Newt or Rick .

The up side, is that much of the stuff they are pitching cuts into their ability to paint Rick as this “right-wing, religious, nutcase radical in the general election. I hope he uses it well.


40 posted on 02/19/2012 6:26:13 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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