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Air Force to cut 10,000 airmen, shift aircraft
AP via San Antonio Express News ^ | 3 Feb 2012 | Lolita C. Baldor

Posted on 02/03/2012 8:53:55 PM PST by Racehorse

The Air Force on Friday detailed plans to cut the service by nearly 10,000 active, National Guard and Reserve airmen next year, as part of a broad move to downsize and shift capabilities around the country to be better prepared for wars of the future.

More than half of the personnel cuts, and much of the aircraft and other equipment moves, will be borne by the Air Guard, triggering criticism from the National Guard Association.

The Air Force said the service cannot absorb any further cuts in active duty forces because that would limit their ability to respond to multiple crises.

Overall, about 3,900 active duty, 5,100 Air Guard and 900 Air Force reserves would be cut in the next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; airguard; military
Here we go again. Obama channels the ghost of Jimmy Carter.

We'll see what 50 governors and 100 senators have to say about gutting the Air Guard . . . again.

This makes interesting reading (pdf): USAF Force Structure Changes: Sustaining Readiness and Modernizing the Total Force

1 posted on 02/03/2012 8:53:59 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

Is this a result of the so called “Super Committee” not being able to come up with budget cuts?

(Although O is already calling for another debt ceiling increase.)


2 posted on 02/03/2012 8:57:16 PM PST by berdie
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To: Racehorse

limit their ability to respond to multiple crises. /

What crisis? Marshall Law perhaps?

Howdy Doody is stepping up his campaign of destruction before the electuins. I feel it is going to get very ugly in the coming months.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 8:59:47 PM PST by mardi59
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To: Racehorse

Let’s see now, my last day on the job was last Friday, and my nephew is a young Air Force jet mechanic.
I’m starting to think Commandante Zero is making all this `hope and change’ personal ...

“The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”
Moochelle “I Need 50K Worth Of G-Strings” Obama


4 posted on 02/03/2012 9:11:26 PM PST by tumblindice ("Life is short and so are we my friend." Napoleon to his horse)
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To: Racehorse

Obama found something to cut from the budget and of course the Commie cuts the military budget instead of his food stamp program. The food stamp pResident.


5 posted on 02/03/2012 9:21:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Racehorse
Annnnd, the big winner is....

This guy (Obama bff Ayers)

.

6 posted on 02/03/2012 9:23:16 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Racehorse

“wars of the future”.....Wars against the rich, conservatives, Christians, traditional familes.......


7 posted on 02/03/2012 10:25:17 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Racehorse
When I came to work at my present employer, the hallways were full of "SDI" work. Clinton was elected a year later. The halls became a "ghost town". Likewise, the parking lot went from overflowing to mostly empty.
8 posted on 02/03/2012 10:58:15 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Racehorse
"The Air Force on Friday detailed plans to cut the service by nearly 10,000 active, National Guard and Reserve airmen next year, as part of a broad move to downsize and shift capabilities around the country to be better prepared for wars of the future."

Liberal "logic".

9 posted on 02/03/2012 11:16:54 PM PST by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Racehorse
Drones will drop bombs on anybody, including us.
10 posted on 02/03/2012 11:19:58 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Racehorse
Obama really is a scum sucking low life piece of shit.
11 posted on 02/03/2012 11:21:22 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, got a friend in the AF Reserves. She’s probably screwed even though she is extremely good at what she does.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 11:28:20 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: annie laurie

Liberal “logic”.

Exactly. What Bullsh!t.


13 posted on 02/03/2012 11:43:21 PM PST by Levante
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To: TheCause

Any cuts to Welfare?

Nah, didn’t think so. How about entitlements to illegals?

Nope, didn’t think so either.


14 posted on 02/03/2012 11:44:44 PM PST by Levante
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To: Levante
Zer0's train wreck rolls on (as planned).

Train wreck-3sm
Blame the Jackwagon.

Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 351 days as of February 4, 2012.

15 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:43 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Racehorse
"The Air Force on Friday detailed plans to cut the service by nearly 10,000 active, National Guard and Reserve airmen next year, as part of a broad move to downsize and shift capabilities around the country to be better prepared for wars of the future."

After reading the article, I'm not too concerned it's mostly about cutting back on the National Guard and repositioning assets. Even with the latest defense cuts over some 10 years, the budget will still allow the 2nd biggest expenditures to our defense, after HHS expenditures. Of course, HHS monies are outrageous. Still, I'm not really worried.

A huge part of our GDP goes into defense research, production, payroll, etc., and always will. Yes, even with the commies in the Legislature and the Executive branch, there are those who will not allow us to become defenseless.

Here's a happy thought: Think Trident submarines. No one knows where they are, and no one knows what their target package is. Yeah, I know, the Muslims don't subscribe to MAD because they just don't give a shit about themselves nor their children. But that will be resolved with other means - watch Israel in the coming year.

16 posted on 02/04/2012 12:08:23 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: mardi59

I knew a guy named Marshall Law. He died several years ago. He lived in the town I inhabit.

If you are talking about something other than an individual, perhaps you mean to reference something like martial law.


17 posted on 02/04/2012 1:47:29 AM PST by tdscpa
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To: Racehorse
The Air Force on Friday detailed plans to cut the service by nearly 10,000 active, National Guard and Reserve airmen next year, as part of a broad move to downsize and shift capabilities around the country to be better prepared for wars of the future.

They're not doing any such thing.

They're slashing their our force structure to cut the DoD budget -- to "save money" so they can throw it away on tax-eaters, for votes.

It's just as Hackett et al. described in The Third World War, a Carter-era warning about what British and U.S. defense cuts were doing to the defensibility of Europe, and especially to deterrence.

As Hackett pointed out, the British played this "reorganization" game for 20 years and more, until the British Army of the Rhine (BAOR) became almost a paper force without a real core. In the authors' war-gamed exposition, the Red Army sliced through the BAOR as if it were hot butter. It took an arc-light raid finally to stop the Red Army short of the Rhine.

18 posted on 02/04/2012 3:15:29 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: tdscpa

I had a run in with Marital Law once and lost half my stuff.


19 posted on 02/04/2012 3:28:57 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: lentulusgracchus
Unknown to Hackett et al, at the time, was nothing would stop the Russians. The Russian army, once passed through the Fulda Gap, would continue its advance until it reached the English Channel 72 hours later.

(Arc light raids using nuclear weapons would not have worked, assuming the B52s survived long enough to get there in the first place.)

At some point in the Russian advance, tactical nuclear weapons would have been used by both sides. That use would have slowed the advance somewhat but not halted it.

At the time, the combined Russian armies would have been in around 4-500,000 motorized troops and 30,000 tanks.

The Russsian coms used encrypted one-day throwaway pads for inter-unit locations, the US used plain descriptions passed in the clear ... AFCVE DEFGT (4- channel PPM encrypted) as opposed to “take a right off the HWY and we are under the big tree in the field”.

Our position, 4 klicks from the German border and opposite the Fulda Gap, would have been overrun in the first hours, with the first rest stop 30 klicks behind us. But then, it would not have mattered to us, since we were a tactical nuclear target for the Russians and a strategic nuclear target for the US ...

An interesting side note: the Russians (as told to me by a KGB guy) used the word ‘Mir’ differently than we did. To us it meant both World or Peace depending on usage. He told me they used it with a clenched fist meaning Conquer the World. Same as the ragheads say ‘Daresalem’ meaning Peace of the World to us, but meaning Peace of the World Under Islam to them.

20 posted on 02/04/2012 5:48:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: berdie
Is this a result of the so called “Super Committee” not being able to come up with budget cuts? (Although O is already calling for another debt ceiling increase.)

CLOWARD-PIVEN full speed ahead!

21 posted on 02/04/2012 6:55:04 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Racehorse

Perhaps they are getting the military ready for war against the Tea Partiers, Chistians, Jews, etc.. Look who’s in charge.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 6:58:13 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: tdscpa

LOL I flubbbbbed that one. Yes I meant martial law. Wow, I need to quit working 9 hour days.


23 posted on 02/04/2012 7:05:40 AM PST by mardi59
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To: Levante
The $1.2 trillion that is supposed to automatically occur if the super committee could not come up with a plan are supposed to translate into $6 billion in cuts to National Defense (Dems thinking that Reps wouldn't stand for this), called sequestration by the Pentagon. The cuts in this article do NOT include sequestration cuts.

Another $6 billion in cuts would be for entitlement spending (ditto above, but reversed). I have yet to see anything published on how the $6 billion cut in entitlement spending is going to be accomplished. If you remember both would automatically go into effect if the super committee could not come up with a budget, which they miserably failed to do.

If anyone has heard something I missed I'd love to hear about it.

24 posted on 02/04/2012 7:20:27 AM PST by Alissa
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To: Racehorse

BFL


25 posted on 02/04/2012 7:22:36 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Racehorse; All
1 posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 10:53:59 PM by Racehorse: “Here we go again. Obama channels the ghost of Jimmy Carter. We'll see what 50 governors and 100 senators have to say about gutting the Air Guard . . . again.”

One good thing about these cuts is that by proposing a new round of BRAC (base realignment and closure) and National Guard cuts, the Department of Defense is virtually guaranteeing major political pushback.

My experience with colonels and generals is they're usually very competent subject matter experts in their military specialty, but often are tone-deaf when it comes to politics. That's not a criticism — it's drilled into our uniformed personnel that politics is the job of the politicians, not the soldiers, and “stay in your lane” is not bad advice for someone wearing the uniform.

In this case, however, I wonder if the senior leaders are deliberately trying to make Obama’s plans for defense cutbacks a political nightmare that will never get implemented because even the liberal Democrats don't want their own local bases closed or National Guard units eliminated.

Time will tell.

26 posted on 02/04/2012 7:26:40 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Racehorse

Thanks Obama, disarm America and hand it over to your constituents in food stamps. If this pathetic clown gets four more years we are in deep crap. I’ll stop being picky and vote for any Republican to get him out of office.


27 posted on 02/04/2012 7:45:57 AM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King

I tell you — “constituents on food stamps” are illegals. That’s it. There really aren’t THAT many blacks on the welfare roles, at least in our neck of the woods.

He is fattening up his NEW army.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 8:06:37 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: DainBramage
I had a run in with Marital Law once and lost half my stuff

only half? you got lucky

29 posted on 02/04/2012 8:15:45 AM PST by sternup
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To: Racehorse

In the 90s we had clinton’s decimating of the military as part of the end of the cold war peace dividend.

in the 21st century, we have what will be know as obama’s Surreneder dividend!


30 posted on 02/04/2012 9:26:22 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Alissa

Thanks for the info!


31 posted on 02/04/2012 10:47:01 AM PST by Levante
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To: All

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/

Check out the combat pay cut piece.


32 posted on 02/04/2012 10:47:28 AM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Abortion leaves two victims, the mother and the child.)
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To: Always Independent
Something tells me in wont be long until bho gets the national police force that he has always wanted.
33 posted on 02/04/2012 11:08:14 AM PST by centermass_socrates (The beatings will continue until moral improves)
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To: Red Steel
"...the Commie cuts the military budget instead of his food stamp program. The food stamp pResident."

Many months ago, Obama and Congress cut food stamps by $10 billion to fund pay public school teachers. ...don't know whether or not that's been done again since then.


34 posted on 02/04/2012 12:26:40 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel

Little error on my part there. Correction: Obama and Congress cut food stamps by $10 billion to fund pay for public school teachers. Our local, federally funded government employees are members of both political parties, and they’ll be the last to take some serious budget and personnel (or “human resources”) cuts. That will most likely not be done until repudiation and currency adjustment time have arrived. The default process will be far rougher than most of us are willing to accept, and the process will continue to completion.


35 posted on 02/04/2012 12:34:26 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Racehorse

The Air Force said the service cannot absorb any further cuts in active duty forces because that would limit their ability to respond to multiple crises.

Overall, about 3,900 active duty, 5,100 Air Guard and 900 Air Force reserves would be cut in the next year.

Noting that senior defense leaders have said the planned $487 billion in budget cuts over the next 10 years will mean more reliance on the reserves, Guard association president, Retired Maj. Gen. Gus Hargett Jr. said this plan “reduces the Air Force’s ability to quickly respond to unforeseen contingencies in the future.”


Ok, let me get this straight: We are going to devastates the reserves and the Air National Guard to save money. BUT! Our rapid response plan is to rely on our Reserves and Ar National Guard units to fill the gaps. RIGHT?

Excuse me I have a headache from trying to figure this all out.


36 posted on 02/04/2012 1:51:57 PM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Racehorse
This is on top of the 16,000 civilian jobs they just eliminated this year.

Hope and Change!

Let's be honest here.

The main reason our military is being decimated by Obama and the Democrats is so that the Community Organizer can hand out more "entitlement" checks, more welfare to fat breeders, more ca$h to illegals, more unemployment checks to the lazy for 99 weeks, and more EBT cards to undeserving scum.

37 posted on 02/04/2012 2:45:41 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Racehorse

This is quite a dangerous time to be pulling this crap.


38 posted on 02/04/2012 2:49:33 PM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: A Navy Vet
Think Trident submarines. No one knows where they are, and no one knows what their target package is.

That's good to hear. I wonder how many people had to knock the Kenyan down and sit on him to keep him from blabbing all about the subs to the media, Russia, China, Iran and the Muslim brotherhood. Or maybe our DoD had sense enough to not tell him.

39 posted on 02/04/2012 3:07:18 PM PST by CatDancer (Still pulling for Newt. Arms getting tired. Mood getting worse.)
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To: CatDancer

They are smiling in Tehran and Beijing.


40 posted on 02/04/2012 3:10:08 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: tumblindice

UGH! My youngest just went into Air Force Basic Training January 3rd to be in the Reserves.

Thank you ZERO!!!


41 posted on 02/04/2012 4:53:27 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: LibsRJerks

By “constituents” I meant those of any race living on government handouts that will vote for him just to keep the gravy train rolling. I really didn’t have a particular race in mind. He will get 90%+ of the black vote no matter what he does.


42 posted on 02/04/2012 9:35:58 PM PST by Reagan is King
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