Posted on 02/02/2012 1:00:27 PM PST by nuconvert
Edited on 02/02/2012 2:14:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Does Trump's endorsement, no matter who it is, really matter? is there anyone voting based on what he says?
At risk of sounding like a tin-foil wacko, it’s an even bet that the GOP-E does NOT want to win this election. They are either (1) happy with Obammunism (2) unwilling to tackle this economy that they think will continue tanking, so why get the blame, (3) uninterested in stopping the socialist slide, or (4) All of the above.
I don’t think Trump would have been more than a flash in the pan if he had gotten into the race - people would have been amused, but that would have been it - and he realized this. He cited Romney’s electability but I think he’s reading the Wall Street Journal script...even if you look at the GOP primaries so far, nothing gives the impression that Romney would get more voters, because his numbers simply haven’t changed, even $20 million later. Nobody really wants Romney, and if it weren’t for the fact that Romney can pay for his campaign staff out of his own pocket, he probably wouldn’t have any campaign staff.
Trump will attract a few people because he’s flaky and likeable, and Romney is seriously lacking on the likeability quotient.
Romney appeals mostly to elderly ladies who think he’s such a nice young man and reminds them of the Mormon missionary who came to their door and just wore the nicest white shirt...the fact that he had that nutty look in his eye and couldn’t give a straight answer to a single question is lost on people like her, unfortunately.
Lol
If I’m not mistaken Trumpy is a Independent now. I thought I hear/seen news about this last month.
With the money this guy has and looses like a revolving door; I really expected him to go after the birther thing and have his literal own page in American history. Guess he thinks hes going to get it via another route.
The Donald wanted to have a one-time “wealth tax” to put the federal purse in clover. Something like 30%. Why are so many billionaires left wing? Goodness of their hearts? Ha!
You darn new guys!Don't you read the rules? :)
Why is it when Willard says all this conterversy stuff the media justs ignors it...first it was the 10,000 bet ,,,then he loves to fire people ... (just like trump) then he said he doesn’t care about poor people....Does Trump not care about poor people????
Anyways Trump is just a very rich guy....I really don’t care who he endorses he is no one to me!!!!!
I think it's all internal. The GOP establishment wants to marginalize the 30-35% of the party that is demanding real changes. I believe the goal is to be so moderate/liberal that they gain the middle and left of center. If they can do this they don't need the right.
In retrospect it looks like this started almost immediately after the 2010 elections when they began down playing the role obamacare had and said it was all about financial concerns. We will see how this plays out. I know my wife and I are starting to believe we don't have a party to represent us, exactly what the Rats want.
I think the winner in all this is Obama’s team, they must love how we’re being whipsawed.
Take a look at the (some consistent/some not) bashing back and forth here between just a few hours on the “endorsing Newt” thread.
Some ITYS’s form some posters, some very consistent. Anyway, it’s interesting to see what “they” can do to us.
Trump has one HUGE strength. He can shut the media up. And put them on his side because they are terrified of him. BIG HUGE advantage. And also I think he works with Sarah - he loves her and she likes him. These 2 are on to something.
50 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:03:33 AM by American Dream 246
So now it’s Sarah against Trump! I thought they liked each other...so much for the theory that they in on it together (my theory.)
194 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:46:31 PM by American Dream 246
Well, Drudge has big headline: DONALD DOUBLES DOWN: ON MITT ...Who knows! Drudge has gone to the dark side....
109 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:26:11 AM by Bushbacker1
Trump endorses Romney, cites tough China position and electability
As he continues to buy his windows, etc. from China for his projects.
177 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:28:35 PM by Bushbacker1
Hey I’d rather have him for Newt than running as he said he would....I have to say “endorsements” are certainly telling which side of right and wrong folks are on.
9 posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:53:59 PM by caww
Trumps..(and Trumpett’s like Bondi) are all lining up for their pay offs and kickbacks in business...(and government positions).
There’s so much bartering going on and will be increasing as this year moves along....I bet behind the scenes it looks like a flipping hurricane of activity we’ll never see.
181 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:30:05 PM by caww
AND now they are saying he’ll be endorsing Willard...Regardless you’ve earned a t shirt for your post. Click to Donate to Newt Gingrich
116 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:34:30 AM by hoosiermama
Wonder what kind of a deal “the Donald” made with “the Mitten”...you can bet he didn’t do it for the “good of the country” or is he setting him up later for a ‘YOU’RE FIRED’ Click to Donate to Newt Gingrich
14 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:06:52 PM by hoosiermama
I would vote for Trump 3rd Party over Romney, no contest.
106 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:16:17 AM by KansasGirl
That is hilarious! I hope the GOP wakes up before it’s too late and nominates somebody else!
26 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:10:49 PM by KansasGirl
Trump is an ego maniac who always plays the odds. He’ll back Romney, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE ELITE SNOBS.
117 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:41:58 AM by NKP_Vet (creep.)
“The problem with Donald has always been that he doesn’t have a solid set of core values”
Then it’s only right that he endorsed Willard the liberal, who also has no core set of values.
63 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:20:43 PM by NKP_Vet
As the world knows, Trump is a very successful businessman. Remember Mitt turned down that debate w/Trump as moderator for a reason. Mitt would have been toast if he accepted and Mitt knew it. The man is weak, very weak.
Newt is a far better businessman than Mitt. Instead of bringing his brilliance to a company, he chose to go the political route because of his love for America. That is where he put his focus, where his heart is.
He balanced the budget quickly and got things done with opposition. It’s easier to get things done when a company is geared in one direction unlike DC.
Then there is the work ethic - we can agree that is Trump’s mo as well as Newt’s. This endorsement does not surprise me at all. He knows the one more than capable of turning around America. Mitt can fool those everyday voters with lies but never a savvy successful businessman like Trump.
118 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:54:43 AM by presently no screen name
It doesn’t figure to me, at all! I thought for sure Trump knew mitt is weak. I wonder exactly what is going on behind the scene. 3rd party - I see it coming.
166 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:19:42 PM by presently no screen name
This should play well with the Trump Chumps that actually believed he was running.
What ever happened to Trumps investigators on Hawaii? He said they uncovered striking evidence that Obama was not eligible to run, and he would SOON show it, then he disappears. Now the same MSM that made him a Republican star won’t ask him about his past claims.
Trump Chumps never learn!
41 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:41:01 AM by sickoflibs
RE :”heads-noot, tails-mittens...
all the trumpbots heads most certainly are exploding over the ‘tease’ of the last 24 hrs...
HA-HA. This is supposed to HELP Romney??
This looks even worse for Romney than it would have for Newt if he was the one blessed by Trump. Romney wouldnt even join a debate moderated by Trump, yet Trump picks him. .
As I recall there were a few threads in December where some giddy with Newt were singing the praise for Trump.
85 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:30:20 PM by sickoflibs
Lindsey and now the Donald. If the way these two have been trashed on FR, including by those who are now pushing Newt, I assume there will be mass disavowment of the endorsements.
Why?
Do you always think completely linearly with no attention to context?
54 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:16:25 AM by SoConPubbie
In hindsight this isn’t surprising bc Romney emphasizes making China play by the rules and that is Trump’s main theme.
Why is it whenever you post something about Myth Romney I get the suspicion you really support him?
78 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:26:21 PM by SoConPubbie
Fox & fools now speculating that Trump will endorse ROMNEY (Doocey) or that he’s not going to endorse anyone (Gretchen)
76 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:17:21 AM by sodpoodle
I’m thinking that during his conversations with Newt - Newt stood firm on issues so Trump felt stupid and his ego couldn’t take it.
OTOH - In his conversations with Romney - flip flopper Mitt agreed with Trump on everything and it made Donald feel good.
60 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:20:07 PM by sodpoodle
I’ll believe it’s an endorsement for Newt when I see it. He’s probably going to announce he’s not going to run for president and nothing else. If he was going to endorse anyone why not just come out and do it.
27 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:21:21 AM by Terry Mross
We’re being played by everyone of them. Some of the class of 2010 played us. They saw an opportunity to get to congress to cash in.
We all might as well go ahead and throw up and get it over with. Before it’s over Sarah will be cam”pain”ing with Mitts. As will Newt. As will Bachman. As will Santorum. As will Cain if he’s wanted. Ron Paul is the only one who won’t be playing.
And don’t be surprised if Steve Wynn endorses Romney.
Then come 2013, obama is sworn in for a second term and we watch it all go away.
193 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:45:07 PM by Terry Mross ( We need a SECOND party.)
Please let this be true......
71 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:14:36 AM by The Wizard
this is a joke right?
35 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:12:43 PM by The Wizard
Unbelievable. What is wrong with Trump?
128 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:59:53 PM by Wisconsinlady
The Donald is nuts.
2 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:01:56 PM by Wisconsinlady
Making my point.....
I've learned from Christine O'Donnell debacle that many conservatives (many Freepers included) are quick to fall for someone who says things they want to hear. Whether or not they are connected to reality, it's irrelevant. Or whether the person's actions in the past--if we look carefully--embodied conservative principles. It doesn't matter either. As long as the person says the 'right' things today, that's what count.
Excuse me, I'm not knocking other "Freepers" as a whole. Most freepers realize Trump is a con-artist. I'm knocking the small minority of freepers on this board who were (and continue to be) convinced Trump is serious about the birther stuff and is some great patriot who is going to take down Obama. Those freepers are wrong, just like the freepers who swooned over Romney in 2008 and fantasized over a "McCain/Romney" ticket. This is a conservative forum and most freepers are solid conservatives. The small minority who are not deserve to have to actions questioned. I'm going to call freepers out who support liberals, sorry if that offends you.
>> proving once again you love the sound of the bite between your lips as you chew on your fellow freepers. <<
Caww, have you looked in the mirror lately? You're projecting.
>> they also know this is political theater....and we all enjoy the “show” when it’s played as that... <<
Really? I talked with numerous pro-Trump freepers on here when he was toying with a Presidential run and they swore he was serious as a heart attack about his patriotic conservative plans and tea-party values. Any attempt to point out Trump's record didn't match his rhetoric and/or pointing out he would be a terrible candidate for the GOP was meet with the grating of teeth and angry "and just who are YOU supporting for President?!" inquiries, as well as them adamantly insisting facts about Trump's long liberal record of supporting universal health care, gun control, wanting Bush impeached for Iraq, applauding Pelosi, etc., were "lies" and "anti-Trump smears"
Doesn't seem to me they realized it was all an sideshow. I find Michael Savage entertaining but I wouldn't insist that he's not only a good choice for President, but the ONLY good person the GOP can run. In fact, I would never recommend that he run for President. I realize Savage is a sideshow act that makes for good radio, and not a serious policy wonk. But I have yet to see any of Trump's fans admit that this egotistical real estate tycoon has no business setting government policy. Usually it's met with "you just ENVY The Donald's brilliance" and "you must be for Obama cuz you don't want The Donald to expose THE TRUTH to America"
>> we play into as well. But you are wrong to underestimate Freepers...absolutely wrong. <<
You are wrong if you think most freepers agree with you caww... absolutely wrong.
He changes his mind more than his wife changes clothes. Of course, he also changes his wives more than ____________.
That said; the RNC ET AL and likeminded Repubs; have done something, much worse. Willingly and eyes ‘wide shut’.
historically, the democratic republicans spawned the two parties, but perhaps they were just an elaborate hoax to retain control for so long...
the people will prove they are in control this year and in the future.
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LOL. . .yes; pair alright.
Cannot help but wonder; if it was not Romney Camp; facilitating 'rumors' that Trump would endorse Newt. In their eyes; a great way to embarrass Newt. Clucking Media tongues; wondering (sure and not) 'what happened'. . .Newt looks like the bride left at the altar.
They love it.
That was a treat - thanks for the honorable mention;) LOL!!
Another day - another drubbing. It’s getting to feel as if someone put us in a front load washing machine on a hot/cold setting and maximum spin cycle. We can look out, but not get out.
Now we’re hung out to dry - again!!!!!
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