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To: Kansas58

I found the quote below on line, purporting to be from the US Supreme Court, Minor v. Happersett,1875.

If this is a true and accurate quote, it contradicts your definitive statement:

“Natural Born Citizen” has ALWAYS meant “Citizen at the Moment of Birth”

Since I am not a lawyer, as you appear to be, please enlighten me. Thank you.

“At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”


72 posted on 02/01/2012 8:29:11 PM PST by map
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To: map

“I am not an attorney...”
from Kansas58’s “about” page.

(but, kudos to Kansas58 for representing himself in the Tiller case.)
Remember—”online” info concerning Minor vs. Happersett MAY have been tampered with—see the Justia.com link about this:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/justia-com-surgically-removed-minor-v-happersett-from-25-supreme-court-opinions-in-run-up-to-08-election/


86 posted on 02/01/2012 8:36:06 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: map
I am not a lawyer, but I have won more cases, in Court, than many attorneys. One case I won was before the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals.

Now, you need no law degree to understand the quote you posted. You only need logic and English language understanding.

First, your quote is not exclusive. It clearly states who IS (was at the time of publication) a Natural Born Citizen. Nowhere in your quote does it exclude others, does it?

And now, as a point of Law? Common Law is Moot, Case Law is MOOT, when Legislation conflicts, later on.

120 posted on 02/01/2012 8:58:07 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: map
Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts

Unfortunately, no definitive, exclusive definition of NBC has been established, at least by this citation.

656 posted on 02/04/2012 12:54:23 AM PST by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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