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To: Kansas58; LucyT; Brown Deer; DiogenesLamp; sourcery; STARWISE; rolling_stone; philman_36; ...
"Congress, by simple legislation, can deny Citizenship to 'Anchor Babies'"

That's right. Any form of citizenship that is provided for via statute enacted by men can be revoked or bestowed as the laws change. There is one type of citizenship however, that cannot be bestowed or revoked by statute, and that is natural born citizenship: A person born on US soil to parentS who are themselves citizens. They are citizens by virtue of Natural Law and such their citizenship status cannot be created or nullified by any legal contrivance of man. They just are.

In the words of Minor vs Happersett: If the intent (and it absolutely was) of the founders was to attempt to the greatest degree possible to mitigate the potential for divided loyalties in the person to be entrusted with the presidential levers of power, then a person with no presumed potential for divided loyalties at all by virtue of the US citizenship of both parents is obviously and logically to be superior in regard to natural born citizenship status than someone who has one or more parents holding foreign allegiance, no matter where the presumed citizen (there are doubts about these kind, according to Minor) is born.

Logic Fail- Ping. (Apologies to anyone I missed, and to anyone peeved that I Pinged them unsolicited. I just thought it funny that this hadn't been addressed more thoroughly)

263 posted on 02/02/2012 12:41:52 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Should’ve deleted “In the words of Minor vs Happersett”. Editing error. :(


266 posted on 02/02/2012 1:00:52 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
That's right. Any form of citizenship that is provided for via statute enacted by men can be revoked or bestowed as the laws change. There is one type of citizenship however, that cannot be bestowed or revoked by statute, and that is natural born citizenship: A person born on US soil to parentS who are themselves citizens. They are citizens by virtue of Natural Law and such their citizenship status cannot be created or nullified by any legal contrivance of man. They just are.

This is exactly one of the major points of Sourcery's essay that I seized upon. It is exactly right. Congress cannot bestow that which is inherent. It is exactly like eye or hair color, it is an inherent trait of the person. That it exactly resembles genetic characteristics is no accident because it is imparted in the same manner; From Parents to offspring. I am glad that more of us are seeing this so clearly.

301 posted on 02/02/2012 7:15:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Again:
You have no Case Law to support your odd theories.

The Case Law you present is now MOOT due to Congressional action.

The Case Law you present also states, clearly in each decision, that the Constitution did NOT define Natural Born Citizen, so the Judge(s) had to resort to Natural Law or Common Law.

Congress has since defined and redefined Citizenship, as Congress clearly has the power to do.


314 posted on 02/02/2012 8:03:32 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Oh, its been addressed. So much so it resembles the feather pillows after Bella and Edward got done with them...

I have personally addressed it so many times I can’t even begin to count them. Divided loyalty is at the HEART of the matter when John Jay wrote to Washington during the Constitutional Convention.... it is the main reason he even addressed the issue to the future first President.

There are dedicated individuals who are SCARED TO DEATH of this issue ruling the day. It means their preferred a$$hole is headed for prison, and every God forsaken thing the cretin signed or did is struck from the record. Obama is erased from history as a POTUS, but instead recorded as an usurper who was caught and PUNISHED. There are too many useful idiots who have too much egotistically if not literally at stake to give up on the Kenyan worm.

You can’t fix stupid. You just cant. Particularly when the stupid want to STAY stupid. So it is up to us to inform those who just don’t have the information, the REAL information they need to come to the correct conclusions.


327 posted on 02/02/2012 9:20:21 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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