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Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, Florida was Rick Santorum's Night
Catholic Online ^ | 1/27/12 | Keith A Fournier

Posted on 01/27/2012 4:27:15 AM PST by tcg

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To: phi11yguy19

“he point was that Spector was head of the Senate Judiciary Committee”

...and by booting Spector, we get a more conservative R on the Judiciary by default.

This Santorum spin doesn’t hunt. Santorum endorsed the GOP E loser. Period.


81 posted on 01/27/2012 10:19:59 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr
This Santorum spin doesn’t hunt. Santorum endorsed the GOP E loser. Period.

So which fact "doesn't hunt" in your opinion?
(A) Spector was indeed on the Senate Judiciary Committee?
(B) Despite his being a Democrat with a R in front of his name at the time, he pushed through Roberts and Alito?
(C) Without Spector doing that, those two wouldn't have passed through?

Or is it (D) You didn't know these things and just have a blind bias against the guy because you support someone else?

These are important facts of why Santorum supported Spector, which I admittedly didn't know in '06 when I voted against him. I voted by name and party back then and didn't do my homework - pro-Spector was enough to be anti-Santorum. Now that I pay more attention, I realize there's a bigger picture than simply just putting a guy with the right letter in front of his name into office.

Better question: when Mitt praised Ted Kennedy for helping with Romneycare or happily accepted major Democrat endorsements; or when Newt sat down with Nancy Pelosi to support federal climate change legislation, or recently tried schmoozing up to Clyburn to garner votes in SC, or praised FDR and Woodrow Wilson as his inspirations - what exactly were their excuses that "do hunt" for you?
82 posted on 01/27/2012 10:36:53 AM PST by phi11yguy19
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To: Daveinyork
Newt is a leftist!? Wow you people astound me. Beyond that if someone attacks you and you fight back it's just two quarreling children?

That is stupid. We need a candidate that will fight back and castigating anyone that will fight back is typical leftism.

83 posted on 01/27/2012 1:23:03 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: phi11yguy19

“So which fact “doesn’t hunt” in your opinion?
(A) Spector was indeed on the Senate Judiciary Committee?
(B) Despite his being a Democrat with a R in front of his name at the time, he pushed through Roberts and Alito?
(C) Without Spector doing that, those two wouldn’t have passed through?”

It’s rare when somebody attempts to make a logical argument with such impotence.

Let’s just imagine Spector lost.

What’s happens smarty guy?

The next highest ranking Republican steps up to the Committee.

So Spector is irrelevant in the argument you put forth. In fact, we likely get a stronger conservative on that Committee.

Santorum Fail.


84 posted on 01/27/2012 2:22:17 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Durus

“Newt is a leftist”

I heard him, in his own voice, describe himself as a progressive, admiring progressive Presidents. In my mind, that’s a leftist.


85 posted on 01/27/2012 2:45:58 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: phi11yguy19
You are the one that brought up precedent.

Executive orders have already been established as precedent.

I am not an attorney, but I know a little about patent and copyright laws.

I owned both before I retired.

We already have laws governing both.

So a question: If a law is being broken by foreign nationals, who should law abiding US citizens be punished ?

Taking away our rights to communicate freely does just that.

The solution is to take a hard line with the governments involved.

For instance, tell China no more cell phones, no more computers and no more Ipads until they break up the gangs that are stealing patented and copyright material.

They would bust them overnight.

SOPA or whatever it is called, is another stupid law similar to the anti-gun laws in that it punishes the law abiding and does nothing to solve the problem of the professional criminal.

Defend Santorum if you like. He is still a rino. Read his record.

86 posted on 01/27/2012 3:33:14 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

Interesting...I tell you in post 39 that I’m against SOPA, PIPA and ACTA, and yet you go on a rant against them. Perhaps you didn’t read my post, just like you apparently haven’t read any of the laws since you refer to SOPA as “whatever it is called”?

Santorum is on record against SOPA and PIPA, as are all of them to my knowledge. Unfortunately, internet law enforcement (aka the ability to enforce the laws on the books) lags behind like a dial-up modem lags FIOS. New laws aren’t necessary, but existing laws do need refinement to assist enforcement. Santorum to my knowledge has just admitted this reality, as is his responsibility in the executive branch.

Example - if someone robs a bank, can the Fed ask for the video surveillance to help with the investigation? If a business sells counterfeit merchandise, can law enforcement set up a sting to catch them in the act? Of course they can. Does that mean they’re constantly under surveillance? Nope.

Now if a hacker commits those same crimes over the internet, can the Fed get the same cooperation? Not so much. Do they need total control to get the ability to enforce the laws on the books? Also no.

It’s a sensitive topic, but I haven’t heard ANY Republican trying to cross it (yet) so it’s a non-starter for me. If the Fed wants constant monitoring or bandwidth control or anything that affects law-abiding users, then NO!! If they want more cooperation AFTER a crime has been committed, then I’m fine with that. The laws need to catch up, but SOPA/PIPA/ACTA go too far.


87 posted on 01/27/2012 4:23:28 PM PST by phi11yguy19
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj
>> Santorum kicked b*tt alright, I hope millions upon millions, particularly fence sitters and the brain dead, were tuned in from sea to shining sea when he gave a brief version of “Founding Fathers Documents And Our Blessed Roots 101”. They SO need to hear this. This is something in a million years you will not hear in modern day American public schools, out of Obama’s trap, nor expressed by Obama’s sycophantic atheist liberal MSM toadies <<<

Nah, can't be. Newt's supporters keep telling me Newt is the only good debater and the only person capable of standing on the same stage with the teleprompter-in-chief. ;-)

88 posted on 01/27/2012 5:39:07 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: phi11yguy19

I never vote absentee. Especially in the primaries. So much can happen.


89 posted on 01/28/2012 1:31:47 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Imo, absentee voting is as bad an idea as these stupid “open” elections where Democrats can vote in Republican primaries and vice versa.

Absentee exceptions should be able to walk into their local post office (or base for military) and cast their vote the same day as everyone else for whatever their home state is. We can send encrypted top-secret military plans across the globe in seconds, yet we can’t transmit secure voting records???


90 posted on 01/28/2012 5:36:22 AM PST by phi11yguy19
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To: BillyBoy; AmericanInTokyo

RS definitely came off best in this debate too. Too bad Blitzer didn’t let him talk more, he spent most of the time encouraging Newt and Mitt to squabble.


91 posted on 01/29/2012 9:50:46 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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