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To: Elle Bee
under the preponderance of evidence standard .... without any defense presented ... doesn't the judgment have to go to the plaintiff? can that decision be appealed to a cooperative jurist or bureaucrat and thereby avoid having Obama or his lawyers ever having to present any testimony or false evidence?

I don't know the specific procedure in Georgia. With that said, even under the preponderance of the evidence standard, the defense has no obligation to present any evidence unless the petitioner presents a prima facia case. This requires Oily Nuts to read the Georgia statute to determine the legal requirements to get on the ballot in Georgia and then show by a preponderance of the evidence that Obama fails to meet those standards. The best approach is to bring in an expert witness to raise doubt about the validity of Odumbo's Hawaiian BC in the hopes of convincing the judge to require the production of the original BC. Then -- and this is most important -- put in evidence concerning the citizenship of ODumbo's parents and Odumbos residency in Indonesia. Once the facts re in, present the legal argument that even if the court accepts the validity of the Hawaiian BC, as a matter of law, Odumbo is not a natural born citizen because Odumbo's father is a British subject and ODumbo gave up his US citizenship when he became a resident of Indonesia. The social security number is totally irrelevant unless Georgia law requires a valid social security number to get on the ballot.

233 posted on 01/26/2012 9:08:32 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

Yeah, the entire SSAN kerfluffle, while interesting, did not seem to advance Orly’s contentions (whatever they were, could not hear the audio well). I am acquainted with people who have SSANs from states they never lived in (not unaccompanied minor immigrants under foster care, either). So no matter what Orly’s witnesses say, I hope the judge does not follow her invitation to go down that legal rathole. Hopefully Mahili will get under the table assistance from Wood in drafting his recommendation(s).


235 posted on 01/26/2012 9:24:10 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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