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Newt E-mails Rush, Stands by House, WSJ & Politico Lie About Him
Rush Limbaugh Radio | 12/21/11 | Onevike

Posted on 12/21/2011 11:24:21 AM PST by OneVike

Politico claims that Gingrich sides with Obama on payroll tax, but he just emailed Rush and said he stands by the Republicans in the House.

So why do conservatives ever give credibility to anything Politico writes?


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: newt; obama; taxes
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1 posted on 12/21/2011 11:24:26 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike; Jim Robinson; TitansAFC; Rush Limbaugh

politico almost always gets it wrong.

GO GINGRICH AND RUSH ROCKS!

I am listening to Rush!


2 posted on 12/21/2011 11:28:04 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: OneVike
I must admit, I have never ever had a better timed post with a better chosen headline when considering the one just before mine that says in the headline, Gingrich to House GOP: Give In on Payroll Tax ("right for America").
3 posted on 12/21/2011 11:28:16 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

or Newt is spinning trying to cover it up.

It’s difficult because I don’t trust newt or politico.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 11:28:33 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I trust Newt more than either politico or WSJ. Newt has a lot more to loose by being wrong than Politico or WSJ, so I think Newt is being truthful. Besides I read both accounts and he never even said what they said he said.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 11:30:56 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Politico is the means of Bishop Romney’s dirty tricks
against Gov. Palin, Mr. Cain, and now Mr. Gingrich.

They are his “go to flacks” for any dirt he wants thrown.


6 posted on 12/21/2011 11:35:31 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: OneVike

The Wall Street Journal reports quotes from Gingrich which say similar things, with a different slant. Gingrich e-mailing to say the slant is wrong is not surprising, but let’s see him explain his quotes.


7 posted on 12/21/2011 11:35:53 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cableguymn

Newtie is under tremendous pressure to hide his true self.


8 posted on 12/21/2011 11:36:37 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: OneVike
Here are all the quotes from the Wall Street Journal Washington Wire story. Are you claiming that they MADE UP these quotes?

“Incumbent presidents have enormous advantages. And I think what Republicans ought to do is what’s right for America. They ought to do it calmly and pleasantly and happily,”

[the senate bill is] “an absurd dereliction of duty.”

“Obama is so inept as a president, and the Congress is so dysfunctional as an institution, that we are lurching from failure to failure to failure,”

“a Senate majority leader who is totally disruptive and a president who is basically campaigner-in-chief, who has no interest in solving the problems of the American people.”

“It’s very hard for the legislative branch to outperform the president in communications,” he said. “He has all the advantages of being one person. He has all the advantages of the White House as a backdrop, and my experience is presidents routinely win.”

Or are the "good quotes" real, and the "bad quotes" made up?

It is rare that you find a journalist actually manufacturing quotes. They are generally punished for that sort of thing. This isn't some fly-by-night paper.

But I guess we should take the candidate's e-mail word that the story is false, because why? If there is a video of the press conference, it should be easy to post it to prove that these words were not spoken.

9 posted on 12/21/2011 11:41:21 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: OneVike
I like that Newt either listens to Rush or has a staff member listening who has immediate access to Newt. My guess is that everything Romney knows about Rush comes from the Boston Globe.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 12/21/2011 11:42:52 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: onyx

Politico is nothing but a gossip site. Page 6 for political junkies.


11 posted on 12/21/2011 11:46:12 AM PST by RIRed
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To: CharlesWayneCT

My money is on them both twisting what he told them to the point of even leaving key words out eo that he looks bad.

What does WSJ & Politico have to gain? What does Newt have to gain?

Again, Newt cannot afford to be seen supporting Obama, but the WSJ and Politico would love to make him seem closer to Obama then their favorite Republican, Romney.


12 posted on 12/21/2011 11:47:05 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: ml/nj

I agree.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 11:47:33 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: ml/nj

Romney probably thinks that conservatives gets all their news from Peggy Noonan and David Frum.


14 posted on 12/21/2011 11:48:08 AM PST by RIRed
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To: CharlesWayneCT

BTW, a more interesting argument would be that the quotes are accurate, but don’t mean what they sound like.

Is his “Republicans ought to do what’s right for America. They ought to do it calmly and pleasantly and happily” a bad quote? Or is it a quote that actually means they should fight for their 1-year extension but be nice about it?

The problem is that 2nd thing doesn’t make sense. If they are going to FIGHT against Obama and Reid, they can’t do it “calmly and pleasantly and happily,”. That wording only makes sense if Gingrich is telling them to give in.


15 posted on 12/21/2011 11:48:28 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: OneVike
Mr. Gingrich made it clear he favored a one-year extension of the two-percentage point payroll tax cut, which expires Jan. 1, not the two-month extension that passed the Senate with bipartisan support. He called the Senate bill “an absurd dereliction of duty.”

“Obama is so inept as a president, and the Congress is so dysfunctional as an institution, that we are lurching from failure to failure to failure,” Mr. Gingrich said.
That quote from here
16 posted on 12/21/2011 11:48:38 AM PST by TBBT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Hey Charles, regardless of ones stand on Newt, you must admit the timing of our two posts are phenomenally perfect.


17 posted on 12/21/2011 11:49:11 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

It’s about making up headlines. National Review just did the same thing. They don’t report on what Newt actually said, they report their conclusion reached from what he said. Gingrich never said “Throw in the towel” or “Take the Senate Bill” National Review is approaching drive by media status.


18 posted on 12/21/2011 11:49:30 AM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: OneVike

Sure, Politico gets stuff wrong. But Gingrich also constantly walks stuff back.

So it’s not like someone goes “wow” here when Gingrich claims he didn’t say what someone else said he did.


19 posted on 12/21/2011 11:50:27 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

My take exactly:

Just because Newt emails Rush to say he didn’t say (or mean) what he said is not enough to explain why the WSJ quoted him saying what he says he didn’t say.


20 posted on 12/21/2011 11:52:11 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Never forget: the media lies and is in the business of trying to choose the GOP candidate for their own purposes.


21 posted on 12/21/2011 11:52:24 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: OneVike

Except it doesn’t sound like he is supporting Obama. It just sounds like he is surrendering to the political expediency.

Nothing Gingrich said suggests he thinks Obama is right, or the Senate is right. His message, if you believe the quotes, is that we can’t win the battle, so the best thing for America would be to surrender this time.

It’s not necessarily a bad message, from a political perspective. It is what I would expect a smart political mind to come up with. It’s hardly the plain-spoken conservatism we have been fighting for. Conservatives are tired of the games, we are told.

The response here is actually very cleverly designed to avoid the real facts and issues. Note that here at FR, the pro-Gingrich forces didn’t post the article and discuss it first, instead they post the e-mail Rush exchange information, to discredit the whole idea of their BEING a story, without dealing with the quotes at all.

If the quotes are false, there will be a recorded proof. I’d love to see the full transcript. But the message in the WSJ is exactly what I would predict from Gingrich given his history (he did sit on a couch with Nancy, he did AGREE with Al Gore at a “debate”).

It’s what smart people do — they outsmart themselves.


22 posted on 12/21/2011 11:53:01 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TBBT; CharlesWayneCT

As I allude to, the left will do all they can to make anyone who might beat Romney look bade.

With the exception of Ron Paul, the crazy homeless guy who was taken in a ship by aliens and released just before primary season started.


23 posted on 12/21/2011 11:53:28 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: RIRed

Yes, and it’s owned and run by Left-wingers!


24 posted on 12/21/2011 11:53:33 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: fightinJAG
My take exactly:

Just because Newt emails Rush to say he didn’t say (or mean) what he said is not enough to explain why the WSJ quoted him saying what he says he didn’t say.
Go back and read post #16
25 posted on 12/21/2011 11:54:55 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

I did.


26 posted on 12/21/2011 11:56:42 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: OneVike

Yes, certainly. It is only a bit annoying that I posted the Wall Street Journal article, but a few have attacked politico for their version; I hope nobody thinks I actually posted a Politico article. :-)


27 posted on 12/21/2011 11:57:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I posted the Newt email story tidbit from rush, and I am a Rick Santorum Supporter, so the pro-Gingrich thing does not fly with me.

I just knew the left and this is typically what they do. The will always divide and conquer, they do it every primary season.

I am amazed about the vast amount of conservatives that will always repeat what the left writes as if they could only report the truth.

No trust for the left from me, especially when talking about their propaganda machine the MSM.


28 posted on 12/21/2011 12:01:35 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: cableguymn

WSJ quoted Newt himself extensively. There is NO WAY WSJ would misrepresent the story. They are the best reporting paper that still exists.


29 posted on 12/21/2011 12:02:02 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: OneVike

Lunch time, so I will respond to anything more after 1:00 when I return from lunch.


30 posted on 12/21/2011 12:02:38 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: cableguymn

WSJ quoted Newt himself extensively. There is NO WAY WSJ would misrepresent the story. They are the best reporting paper that still exists.


31 posted on 12/21/2011 12:02:53 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The WSJ was specifically named as one of the news outlets that Biff Naylor, former chairman of the NRA, told the facts of Herman Cain and Sharon Bialek to. Rather than print his story, the WSJ elected to continue repeating lies about Cain.

If the WSJ would withhold a story and print a lie, what makes you think they won’t make up quotes?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816937/posts


32 posted on 12/21/2011 12:03:00 PM PST by Mari2525
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To: indianrightwinger

I disagree, the WSJ lies all the time. Especially now that they want Romney as our nominee.

If they come from the beltway, then question anything they write.


33 posted on 12/21/2011 12:06:28 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: indianrightwinger
WSJ quoted Newt himself extensively. There is NO WAY WSJ would misrepresent the story. They are the best reporting paper that still exists.
Then you don't know the WSJ. It's news sections are notoriously liberal. Only the editorial pages leans right. And even then it's Establishment right.

34 posted on 12/21/2011 12:12:30 PM PST by TBBT
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To: OneVike

When I first read that Newt was for the payroll tax cuts, I thought this doesn’t fit.

The stupid GOP has been handed a gold plated battle cry against Obama and the dems. But what do many of them do, they side with the enemy.

It is quite simple, the payroll tax cuts is an effort to defund SS and Medicare. Once accomplished it will force seniors into a means tested welfare program, where no matter how much you have paid into SS, you will get the same benefit as a low life who paid in almost nothing.

Once Medicare is broke, seniors will be made to go into Obamacare. (AKA Medicaid on steroids)


35 posted on 12/21/2011 12:14:57 PM PST by Sea Parrot (You know you might be facing your DOOM , if all you get is a click, Instead of a BOOM !)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

THERE IS ZERO CHANCE WSJ MISQUOTED.


36 posted on 12/21/2011 12:16:19 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: RIRed

Politico competes with Mediate as to who can go the furthest left.


37 posted on 12/21/2011 12:18:24 PM PST by Sea Parrot (You know you might be facing your DOOM , if all you get is a click, Instead of a BOOM !)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Which ones are the “bad quotes”? They all seem reasonable to me.


38 posted on 12/21/2011 12:23:33 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: OneVike

Their opinion pieces may be Romney shills. But, their reporting is just simply the best. No chance they misquoted Newt. Period.


39 posted on 12/21/2011 12:26:12 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

I can’t seem to find the quote where Newt says to “give in”. Quote, unquote. So unless Newt said “give in” the WSJ IS lying.


40 posted on 12/21/2011 12:28:19 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: TBBT

Just because their news section leans liberal does not make their Newt’s quotes false. It is impossible that they simply made up the quotes.


41 posted on 12/21/2011 12:28:46 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: cableguymn
It’s difficult because I don’t trust newt..

Newt's a bit like a buddy who sometimes buys you a beer and sometimes doesn't.

Obama is like a street thug who sometimes lets you pass by and sometimes beats the crap out of you and steals your wallet.

The choice seems clear to me.

42 posted on 12/21/2011 12:40:26 PM PST by douginthearmy (1 vote for Paul = 2 votes! 1 primary vote for Romney and 1 general vote for Obama!)
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To: indianrightwinger
It is impossible that they simply made up the quotes

Just wondering, are you a WWE fan?

43 posted on 12/21/2011 12:42:29 PM PST by douginthearmy (1 vote for Paul = 2 votes! 1 primary vote for Romney and 1 general vote for Obama!)
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To: indianrightwinger
Just because their news section leans liberal does not make their Newt’s quotes false. It is impossible that they simply made up the quotes.
No suggestion here that the quotes aren't accurate. They just don't support the headline or the false premise.
44 posted on 12/21/2011 12:43:07 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Theo
Which ones are the “bad quotes”? They all seem reasonable to me.

Ditto.

45 posted on 12/21/2011 12:50:16 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: BigBobber

(I can’t seem to find the quote where Newt says to “give in”. Quote, unquote. So unless Newt said “give in” the WSJ IS lying.)

You are exactly right. In the article Newt said very clearly that he favored the one year extension and not the DemocRATS kicking the can down the road lousy 2 month extension.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 1:01:44 PM PST by Islander2
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To: OneVike

Gingrich tells House Republicans to fold and the Newtbots go into denial mode — right on queue.


47 posted on 12/21/2011 2:00:42 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: indianrightwinger
"Just because their news section leans liberal does not make their Newt’s quotes false. It is impossible that they simply made up the quotes."

What is "impossible" is that a FReeper can be truly that naive concerning the media. What is much more possible is that you're just a Perry hack on the attack.

48 posted on 12/21/2011 2:02:04 PM PST by drpix
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To: OneVike
...he just emailed Rush and said he stands by the Republicans in the House.

That's the kind of guy (or girl) I'm looking for. Someone who will call the MSM on their lies right away. Not apologize for something he didn't say.

49 posted on 12/21/2011 2:07:54 PM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: onyx
GO GINGRICH AND RUSH ROCKS!

GINGRICH and RUSH basically very smart people by nature.
MSM basically very stupid people by nature.

Nuff said.

50 posted on 12/21/2011 2:12:23 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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