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To: TexasFreeper2009
Rush has been leading everyone on this point. Many who call themselves Conservatives actually have little faith in Conservatism being acceptable to a majority of the electorate. Instead, they have drank the kool-Aid and believe that moderacy is the key to being elected.

Of course, historically they are all dead wrong.

I'm fairly confident that should Romney actually win the nomination there will be a major third party candidate.

With the lack of faith in Conservatism by so many Republican leaders, it might just be a battle which has to happen.

To those who say that a third party will likely mean an Obama reelection, I submit that nominating a Republican Moderate would guarantee an Obama reelection.

33 posted on 12/16/2011 6:45:41 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

I would seriously rather vote for Obama than Romney *shiver*

If we are going down, I’d rather a Democrat be in charge. And make no mistake, if we elect Romney it would be the end of the country.


46 posted on 12/16/2011 7:05:37 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: Rational Thought
Barry Goldwater was among the first to observe that the American electorate is not laid out on a continuum of thought from Left to Right, with a broad middle made up of "moderates".

He, alas, ran into the other guy who thought that ~ Lyndon Baines Johnson.

LBJ thought, as did Goldwater, and myself, and others who've thought much about it, that the American electorate is organized into a Bi Modal Saddle. There is no broad middle, and there are no moderates.

There are simply two poles, each formed up a bit differently from the other one, and surrounded by a very thin "FRINGE".

Most politicians who imagine a broad middle fail to realize they are making their appeal to an exceedingly thin "FRINGE" which yields no votes.

Skipping beyond the differences in organization structure of each pole, let's get to the meat ~ how you win an election. First, you must secure your own voting base in your pole. Then, you strive to peal off a faction on the other pole. That doesn't mean you "go to the left" or "go to the right". It means you identify a special interest group or class in the other pole and demonstrate that you serve their interests better than the other guys ~ at least for this election.

That's pretty much LBJ's contribution to the theory BTW. All needed to win was all the Democrats PLUS some Republicans. Richard Nixon picked up on this and finally won by keeping ALL Republicans in line and picking off Southernerners with higher education or businesses.

Ronald Reagan attracted the active practicing Roman Catholics ~ of whom there are millions of people who vote religiously (that's a pun).

All the while these winners kept their base and did permanent damage to the others. LBJ, for instance, pulled in a substantial part of a former hunk of the Republican base, the black voters. Nixon's attraction of the Southern ownership classes managed to make that a permanent loss.

Obama won ONLY because he pulled back a chunk of the RC vote (white liberal guilt ~ they know better now) while keeping 100% of the Democrat base.

In the next election Republicans retrieve 100% of the ownership class, all of the RC voters they've ever gotten before, and keep their base. Obama loses the ownership class folks, probably YOUTH because they are the people who are unnaturally left UNEMPLOYED or employed in dead end jobs with no chance for advancement, and he may well lose even the Hispanics because even they can see how utterly devoid of ideas he is ~ the man's like the politicians they or their parents left behind.

It is up to the Republicans to capitalize on this situation. Best bet is to NOT run a candidate who sounds like Romney, or who has done the same things Obama did ~ e.g. BS Healthcare programs that bankrupt states and nations.

Anybody else can win.

52 posted on 12/16/2011 7:25:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Rational Thought
I agree if you look at a voting results pie chart graph you will see that the moderate vote in almost every major election is a skimpy slice. Yet the rats and RINO’s would have us believe that this is the key to success.



The real solution is to energize your base,(one of the bigger slices on the pie chart) and you will pick up more from the mushy middle than you lose by courting them.
151 posted on 12/16/2011 4:17:34 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (A lie told over and over again is still just a lie and the one telling it a liar.)
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