Posted on 11/28/2011 1:57:59 PM PST by Evil Slayer
Newt Gingrich, who not long ago was urging his fellow Republican candidates to avoid tearing one another apart in pursuit of the party’s presidential nomination, took a new approach on Monday by explicitly declaring: “I don’t claim to be the perfect candidate; I just claim to be a lot more conservative than Mitt Romney.”
With his candidacy on the rise, Mr. Gingrich opened a three-day campaign visit to South Carolina and warned Republicans to be suspicious of candidates who “adopt radically different positions.” It was a fresh glimpse into the sharpening tenor of the nominating fight as the first round of voting begins in five weeks.
“We think there has to be a solid conservative alternative to Mitt Romney,” Mr. Gingrich told WSC Radio in Charleston, S.C. “I’m the one candidate who can bring together national security conservatives, and economic conservatives, and social conservatives in order to make sure we have a conservative nominee.”
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A real, triple layer fence unlike troops can't be moved tomorrow depending on the political winds, is cheaper in the long run, acts as an effective barrier to add to border patrol defenses, and sends a strong signal that we mean business.
Fences can be dug under, cut through, crashed into, blown up, you name it, they were made to be defeated. Illegals will be more afraid of armed troops than they will of any fence. Troops will also have the ability to search incoming vehicles.
Tell me why banks and White House have a fence? Would it be easier just to shoot people?
Anyway, it is unlikely that army would shoot illegals. Old-fashioned fence works very well in Israel (and Mexico has that too on its southern border). Now you can simply walk into the US (whether you are a child, old lady etc). If we have a wall, it is much easier to control the border. In San Diego area, illegal entries dropped to almost zero after the wall.
Fence works. People who claim otherwise arre amnesty frieks who use whatevery excuse possible to advance amnesty.
Tell me why banks and White House have a fence? Would it be easier just to shoot people?
Anyway, it is unlikely that army would shoot illegals. Old-fashioned fence works very well in Israel (and Mexico has that too on its southern border). Now you can simply walk into the US (whether you are a child, old lady etc). If we have a wall, it is much easier to control the border. In San Diego area, illegal entries dropped to almost zero after the wall.
Fence works. People who claim otherwise are amnesty frieks who use whatevery excuse possible to advance amnesty.
True on all points but it’s still a major deterrent in the way it works to supplement the border patrol’s job. From what I understand the triple layer fence in Southern California is so effective that illegals have been forced to Arizona.
As I said troops would never be permanent, they’re too expensive and would be taken out as soon another democrat or a compassionate conservative got into office.
I think Newt is unquestionably more conservative than Mitt. There is really only one issue where it appears that Mitt might be more conservative and that is immigration. But I think we all know that Mitt wont mention that issue again if he gets the GOP nomination. Also, while Newt actually does have conservative aspects to his record, Mitt doesn’t. It’s all just talk and positioning. Kind of like when Obama claims to be a centrist.
There are more conservative people in the race though their electability is definitely less. Bachmann is very conservative and speaks well but I think she comes across as crazy often. Notice how fast conservatives dropped her as soon as Perry got into the race.
Santorum would be great but he just turns people off regularly with his demeanor. During the last debate my wife asked “why does he keep yelling?”
Cain has been cramming info into his head so much you dont really know what he stands for anymore as he often gets confused (plus as he has no actual record, you don’t know what he will do when given choices in government).
Perry makes Bush look like a genius. ‘Nuff said. Huntsman is just weird. Paul would let Iranians nuke us and then sue them in the World Court.
First off, none of my banks have a fence, and second the White House fence covers one city block. Fences have their applications, but imho the entire southern border of the US is not one of them. I maintain an Isreali manufactured Yael 15 fence for my employer. The cost of replacing one sensor and PCB is almost $7000. Our fence is only 2.2 miles long, and you want to build one 1200 miles long. Trust me, if you don't monitor the fence with troops anyway, it will be defeated in short order.
It’s all about the question, “After you seal the border, what would you do with the remaining x million illegals in the US?” It’s obvious that you can’t find, round up and deport that many people, so as soon as you admit that some may have to be allowed to stay, the crazies will start screaming AMNESTY!!! in big bold letters. But trust me, if you ask Romney that question, he will have to say the same thing Newt and Michelle and Reagan said, you have to prioritize and start removing the worst and most recents offenders first.
I have a couple of ideas about illegals......
1) Make Mexico a state. Think of the positives.
or
2) Secure the borders in lock down mode. Give the current illegals two weeks to leave the US because after that no one will return to Mexico unless they are US citizens.
Old-fashion fence with patrols (just like now) is the solution that works. Let’s start with 200 miles first year (in most approriate locations) and see how it goes.
Besides, that means shovel-ready jobs.
Fence, e-verify and state initiates would largely solve the problem. That’s why amnesty hacks are in panic mode trying to prevent them.
or
2) Secure the borders in lock down mode. Give the current illegals two weeks to leave the US because after that no one will return to Mexico unless they are US citizens.
Aye carumba.
Gingrich and Romney are Both horse shit.
Gingrich just stinks less.
If only...
Why is this so hard? Secure the border with both a fence AND troops.
New Federal law, E-verify. No pass, no work. Any employer caught NOT using the system is fined into non-existence and the CEO does 5 years hard time.
E-verify for social services.
Eventually most will deport themselves, we won’t HAVE to go find them.
Romney's a total RINO. For Newt, conservatism is more a business then a matter of conviction. Neither one has the character or integrity to be president.
That all sounds good to me...still supporting Newt, though.
I agree with you about everything, including who you’d vote for.
I like Newt on many issues. He’s stumbled on this one and I look forward to his pending recovery.
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