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Gingrich out on his own on Child Labor, for now
The Washington Post ^ | 11/22/2011 | staff

Posted on 11/22/2011 10:50:04 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Gingrich is known for — and proud of — his unconventional ideas. As he said himself in the same speech, “you’re going to see from me extraordinarily radical proposals.”

This one actually comes on the heels of efforts to change child labor laws around the country. But Gingrich’s suggestion that children start working as early as age nine goes far beyond what most other Republicans are proposing.

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1 posted on 11/22/2011 10:50:07 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Post never saw a public school they liked unless the staff were unionized cretans.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 10:54:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I often wonder, why did child labor suddenly become so horrible around 1900, and then only in factories? Doesn’t it occur to everyone that children were driven like beasts since the dawn of agriculture, and to this day? Why is it okay to work them on farms but not elsewhere?


3 posted on 11/22/2011 10:54:44 AM PST by Tublecane
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Yes, those commercials about the kid is your retirement plan, that will work well, let's compete with Cuba and start having nine years old roll cigars. Hell we can compete with the Chinese, let the little boogers sew socks by hand. We can make raghead rugs also. How many people are looking for work.
4 posted on 11/22/2011 10:57:49 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why not? We’re turning into a third world Country anyway./S

Is that what Newt is trying to tell us?


5 posted on 11/22/2011 11:00:53 AM PST by marty60
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To: Tublecane
Only one out of ten farm kids actually work on farms anymore, excluding the Amish.
6 posted on 11/22/2011 11:02:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Gosh, I haven't seen so many posts from the Slimes or the Compost since I don't know when. This particular dummbell says "But Gingrich’s suggestion that children start working as early as age nine goes far beyond what most other Republicans are proposing."

The context and quote, of course, are quite different;

"This is something that no liberal wants to deal with," Gingrich said. "Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy. It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid. "You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," he said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

He added, "You go out and talk to people, as I do, you go out and talk to people who are really successful in one generation. They all started their first job between nine and 14 years of age. They all were either selling newspapers, going door to door, they were doing something, they were washing cars."

"They all learned how to make money at a very early age," he said. "What do we say to poor kids in poor neighborhoods? Don't do it. Remember all that stuff about don't get a hamburger flipping job? The worst possible advice you could give to poor children. Get any job that teaches you to show up on Monday. Get any job that teaches you to stay all day even if you are in a fight with your girlfriend. The whole process of making work worthwhile is central."

That sounds a lot different than children should be working at nine, doesn't it? It conjures up sweatshops and coal mines. And you idiots fall for it. Either that or you morons on here that are against Newt are making the lie sound like it is truth. Look up the whole quotes...don't let your unreasoning hatred make you willing, useful idiots.

I worked, just as he said, right next to my Pop when I was nine. And I'll bet a lot of you older folks did, too. And you are better for it.

7 posted on 11/22/2011 11:03:34 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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Sounds good to me. I’ve had a job since I was 10 years old. Child labor laws don’t apply in family businesses.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 11:08:06 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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Why not? The government has already started spending taxes those same kids will someday pay.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 11:08:39 AM PST by texas_mrs (Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
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To: org.whodat

Yes, those commercials about the kid is your retirement plan, that will work well, let’s compete with Cuba and start having nine years old roll cigars. Hell we can compete with the Chinese, let the little boogers sew socks by hand. We can make raghead rugs also. How many people are looking for work. “

You’re an idiot. You believe the LA Slimes. You further their cause by slamming a Republican. I hate the way you and your ignorant friends are so blind you can’t see the truth. Read the full quote form Newt and see how they have you tied up in knots, rushing in to be a useful idiot. Or did you already read it and decide to help them anyway? Are you a fool or a traitor? Because it is one or the other.


10 posted on 11/22/2011 11:09:36 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I started working ... and became relatively self supporting ... at the age of twelve ... delivering newspapers.

Youngsters should be allowed to work: especially those on welfare.

11 posted on 11/22/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Given the state of education by indoctrination occurring in public schools, and the preference for no recess, or practically no recesses for little boys, when they instead can be shot up with Ritalin in order to sit through femininist classrooms with female teachers, I can entertain a discussion on better pastimes elsewhere. Darn right!

With the agricultural age dead, manufacturing jobs dead and the American GNP depending on how much and how well you shop high end, something has got to give. Consumerism needs to be replaced with something a tad more rewarding for our children.

Isn’t it true that Beck reported that one of the Adamses, at age eleven, serveda as secretary to Benjamin Franklin while the latter served in France? For crying out loud. How many stories out their about five year olds bringing the family farm truck down to the fields several miles away with field equipment hooked on behind.

Boys and girls were once invested in the family, the family business, the actual responsibility and the rewards for them then were great spiritually, mentally and physically, something the likes of which you might find only on the football field today, reaping million dollar futures but producing nothing.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 11:12:25 AM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: org.whodat

“How many people are looking for work”

Oh, shut up. Most people looking wouldn’t accept teenagers’ work, let alone nine year olds’.


13 posted on 11/22/2011 11:17:09 AM PST by Tublecane
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I have had a job since I was 13 years old. Nothing wrong with a kid working.
14 posted on 11/22/2011 11:19:27 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I believe most young men NEED to work, otherwise they get into trouble.

The time our sons spend washing cars, selling hamburgers, picking cotton or whatever is time they DON’T spend getting into trouble.


15 posted on 11/22/2011 11:20:13 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: org.whodat

“Only one out of ten farm kids actually work on farms anymore, excluding the Amish.”

Be that as it may, they did between the advent of child labor laws and now. Certainly they weren’t intended to cover farm labor, nor have they been strictly construed that way. I wonder why, is all.

Is industrial work especially onerous? In ways, yes; in others, no. But for adults as well as kids, so nevermind. Is the idea that mothers and fathers wouldn’t lash them like greedy capitalist bosses? Ha!

So what is it, aside from pure presumption? Probably nothing.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 11:24:06 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: org.whodat

“Certainly they”

“they” being the laws, not the children, if that was unclear.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 11:26:02 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: jessduntno

BTTT


18 posted on 11/22/2011 11:27:55 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Tublecane
It's funny, because only yesterday I was reading Clothier of the Assabet. Old man Damon would tell boys that they couldn't work in his factory if he got unsatisfactory reports from their teachers.

Child labor is grotesquely misrepresented by the educrats who want to confine unwilling captives in their indoctrination centers. The poor bastards come out not knowing how to read or add, but they are in love with themselves, think they are as clever as can be and are completely infused with self-righteousness and ignorance. They would be far better off working in a mill, where they would learn something and learn to do something. If old man Damon were alive today, he wouldn't accept the detritus that pours out of our "schools".

19 posted on 11/22/2011 11:52:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Tublecane

it’s not, it was a gimick along with retirement to drive down unemployment during the great depression.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 11:56:16 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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