Posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:04 AM PST by Colofornian
Most Division 1 wins as head coach?
Most male children homosexually raped in his Athletic Department showers?
The money's mind boggling.
If Paterno's insistence above is true, then what difference would it make?
Penn State was an anomalous situation, because they had a quasi-divine coach who had been there for 62 (!!) years, and who was basically allowed to run the place without effective oversight. It was an open secret that the AD, Paterno's nominal superior, was never hired without Paterno's approval. Can you imagine a job where you get to hire your own boss?
Because of that, I'm not really surprised that a scandal could be hidden there for a long time. No other college sports program is run that way, AFAIK.
This is the absolute truth. Collegiate athletics ad nothing to the educational process. They are a worthless distraction from what should be a learning process.
Is the contribution of sports hard to quantify? Yes. But its definitely there. There are many factors that contribute to learning. It doesn’t just take place in the classroom. And I say this as a college professor [computer science] who is not even a big sports fan.
I think Spanier was the backup to Arnie Duncan in case their favorite Chicago-boy could not clear scrutiny.
Is anyone asking questions about who, if anyone, has the responsibility for responding or reporting allegations of sexual abuse? Government employees have training including who to call to report suspected wrong doing. The Catholic church has police background checks and special training to recognize signs of sexual abuse and where to report; the Boy Scouts of America for years has a requirement for similar training of all volunteers who have contact with children.
What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse, responsibilities of the supervisors and staff, reporting, and individuals responsible for taking action and following up? Or is that discouraged or ignored because universities are leading the way to personal freedom, acceptance of homosexuality, same sex marriage, etc.?
Don’t know if you saw Barry Switzer’s comments yesterday. He flat out said that ALL the coaches at PSU HAD to know what was going on..
".....This is indeed the peculiar thing about totalitarianism, and what distinguishes it from mere tyranny (or from contemporary authoritarian states).
"Think of ancient Rome, for example. As far as they were concerned, you were free to think what you wanted, so long as it didn't threaten state power.
".........Therefore I think it is accurate to say that the underlying purpose of ideology is to render the wrong right and the lie truth. It magically allows the means to justify the ends, since the utopian goal is so beautiful. ..."
"...I should add that this can be a very subtle process, especially in the non-totalitarian west, where ideology, for the most part, isn't imposed, but rather, seduces and hypnotizes.
"For what is ideology but a substitute reality, or anti-world? It is a pseudo reality, like scientism, or materialism, or leftism, something superimposed on the world.
Eventually the world is no longer perceived at all. Either it is filtered through the ideology, or critical aspects of reality excluded by the ideology aren't even seen (say, the spiritual world). ......"
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I agree. bttt
Hadn’t seen that. I know Paterno made an ungracious remark about Barry Switzer & Jackie Sherrill back in the late ‘80s. Payback? Maybe. But Switzer has drawn a reasonable conclusion.
I just want to add something I haven’t read anywhere. Yes, it is absolutely true that by not reporting Sandusky to the police ALL those in the know - Paterno, McQueery, AD, Pres. Etc. - knowingly unleashed a vicious child predator on the children of Happy Valley and elsewhere. However, it’s MUCH worse than that!
Sandusky operated with the implied approval/backing/OK from Joe Paterno himself! He was accepted as “a great guy” by virtue of his long association with PSU and most importantly JoePa. If the moral and great JoePa says he’s OK, then he’s OK by us! Who would even question such a man in the community - “of course he can take my son to the ballgame! It’s an honor”! “What camp should I send my son to? Well, the PSU/Sandusky camp of course where he’ll learn football from the best but also learn the values of Joe Paterno!”.
It’s far sicker what Joe Paterno did by ignoring this than I have read anywhere. Sandusky was his guy - just like all the long-time coaches were.
It is so similar to the Catholic church that it’s scary. Who didn’t trust priests 40 years ago? Why, the Bishop approves them! Yeah... the bishops were moving offenders to different parishes to coverup while unleashing a predator on new victims.
Bishop JoePa should be in jail. Better yet, he should face the victims every day for the rest of his life. Did you ever bring your grandkids to hang out with Sandusky, Bishop JoePa? Thought not. Coward, phoney, criminal, scumbag piece of trash representing the WORST of humanity!
Nothing. They had been conditioned to believe this was just one of those things that two consenting homosexual males do. "Thank you, officers.", Dahmer said as the two policemen left, after advising them to "keep the noise down." That would-be escapee was later killed and eaten.
(I'm recalling this entirely from memory. These events transpired 20 years ago.)
I wonder what took them so long. Libs are dragging Bush into this and saying how buddy-buddy Bush and Paterno were, and how staunch a conservative Paterno is.
He is out on bail.
From the article “Or being the father figure he supposedly is, tell McQueary that he has to go to the police and will accompany him...”
THAT is what my father would have done, if anyone had come to him with such a report. My father was a relatively frail man, he wasn’t famous and he wasn’t powerful. But, I guarantee my dad and the witness would be at the police station immediately and you wouldn’t be leaving until you knew action was going to be taken.
My father actually spent a good part of his career working in child welfare in NYC. RIP Dad, you were the greatest person I’ve ever known.
Should be in the morgue.
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