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Veteran Scott Olsen Could Be The First Person To Die At A Wall Street Protest
Business Insider ^ | 10/27/2011 | Linette Lopez and Robert Johnson

Posted on 10/27/2011 8:47:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/27/2011 8:47:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Watch footage of the protest here ( there’s a video of Olsen collapsing):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ


2 posted on 10/27/2011 8:50:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hyperbole from the sounds of it.


3 posted on 10/27/2011 8:53:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What does anyone know about this “Scott Olsen”, is he a REAL Iraq/Afghan Combat Vet or is he a Paper-Pushin’ REMF? We need to know!


4 posted on 10/27/2011 8:55:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798620/posts


5 posted on 10/27/2011 8:56:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, the left was hoping for a “Kent State” moment.


6 posted on 10/27/2011 8:56:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The media is delighted. Leftists always benefit from tragedy.


7 posted on 10/27/2011 8:57:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

How ironic that he had a good job, survived two tours in Iraq, only to sign on with a ‘professional’ gang of Marxists posing as protesters and moving targets for the media to get shots as they get pummeled of their own accord...

You swim with sharks, you get bit..

A helluva way to seek sympathy and gather support for anti-capitalism, but to the media who helped birth this pig, break out the spare lipstick..


8 posted on 10/27/2011 8:59:05 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Fractured skull from the sound of it.


9 posted on 10/27/2011 8:59:22 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats killing democrats, last time this happened the Silent Majority went on a 49 state sweep.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 8:59:31 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I feel sorry for the poor guy, but let’s face it - you sleep with dogs, you get fleas. Now he’ll probably be the poster boy for the union thugs, who will increasingly feel empowered to goad the police.


11 posted on 10/27/2011 8:59:39 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

The guy should have had enough SITAWARE (and common sense) to bug out from the area before the Oakland PD cleared the area.


12 posted on 10/27/2011 9:00:16 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...reminiscent of Genghis Khan..."
13 posted on 10/27/2011 9:00:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

All I saw was tear gas being fired above the crowd. Then a pan to someone lying on the ground with no tear gas around him and then lots of confusion....he was hit in the head by something and someone. I am not about to suggest this was done by the police


14 posted on 10/27/2011 9:01:51 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: US Navy Vet

Shipmate, anyone who served in “Theater” suffered real threat on a daily basis (IDF, suicide bombers, etc.)it doesnt much matter whether they were “admin” or not.


15 posted on 10/27/2011 9:03:29 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: SeekAndFind

Very sad, but he shouldn’t have been there.


16 posted on 10/27/2011 9:04:26 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Question that needs to be asked, did protesters PROVOKE police?


17 posted on 10/27/2011 9:04:59 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Well, the left was hoping for a “Kent State” moment.

Now they'll have something they covet even more....a martyr!
18 posted on 10/27/2011 9:05:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Retired Greyhound
Well, the left was hoping for a “Kent State” moment.

Yup... Reminds me of what African President Lunda told Anthony Quinn...

We have a saying in the Bush, Unguama Intikiva: Be careful what you want, you might get it...

19 posted on 10/27/2011 9:05:51 AM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Don’t care. If he wasn’t down there running with marxist scum throwing their little tantrum it wouldn’t have happened.


20 posted on 10/27/2011 9:06:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Scott Olsen survived two tours of Iraq

Has this been verified? Just curious.

21 posted on 10/27/2011 9:07:42 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: TheGunny

My issue is his affiliation with Veterans for Peace, more than his status as a front line or support personnel.

To me, that makes no difference whatsoever, as you said. However, his affiliation with that putrid anti-American group is what put him and me on opposite sides.

I don’t wish for harm to him, and hope he recovers, but if he swam in those waters, he brought misfortune on himself and has no one to blame apart from himself, in my opinion.

The goulish Left, however, would love a martyr.


22 posted on 10/27/2011 9:08:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If he’d behaved himself like a good citizen instead of going out like a punk looking to riot, he’d be fine. No frikken sympathy from me.


23 posted on 10/27/2011 9:08:36 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Gohmert ROCKS!)
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To: TheGunny

Ayup. Charlie did not seem to care what your MOS was, nor the Army, for that matter.

RVN: ‘69-70’, 100% P&T disabled from combat.


24 posted on 10/27/2011 9:09:53 AM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: US Navy Vet

I thought all those veterans were heros?


25 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: US Navy Vet

Considering what we learned from kerry’s winter soldier campaign is he even a veteran?


26 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:26 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: rlmorel

That would be the “ghoulish” Left...


27 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I thought all those veterans were heros?


28 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:56 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Genghis Khan? Never heard of him.

Is he related to the Jen-Jiss Kahn that John Kerry mentioned before Congress?


29 posted on 10/27/2011 9:13:31 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

My parents taught me not to riot or throw things at cops, nor stand next to or even in the vicinity of people taunting cops.

30 posted on 10/27/2011 9:13:55 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The view of Olsen collapsing is obscured, so it's hard to tell what caused it. Maybe someone else can advance it frame by frame and see something. But, the initial flashes (tear gas?) occurred 20 feet or more away. If it was one of those, it would have bounced off his head first.

However, you can clearly see police lob another grenade into the middle of the group of people that go back to Olsen's aid.

31 posted on 10/27/2011 9:16:04 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: SeekAndFind
These people were BREAKING THE LAW. They were asked to move because they were overstepping their allowance to camp out by using hangers to illegally tap electricity and burning heaters inside the tents, to say nothing of filth and garbage.

This is a manufactured uprising and as someone posted here, you tak your chances when you face off with authority--WACO anyone? Ruby Ridge?--Only there, the media protected Reno and her goons-- and the BATF

It is VERY possible he was hit by something other than police projectiles.

If he dies, he becomes a martyr and we will all know his name because it will be on the alphabet stations 24/7.

vaudine

32 posted on 10/27/2011 9:16:04 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting...we denigrate the law enforcement people when they do stuff we don’t like, and praise them when they do stuff we like...


33 posted on 10/27/2011 9:16:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: skeeter

I believe this happens after any period of prosperity. You saw the same thing in the 1960’s after the boom of the 50’s. The kids raised in that boom have no understanding of how the world works because Mom and Dad sheltered them. Then they think they can change things and start this crap.


34 posted on 10/27/2011 9:16:45 AM PDT by TN4Bush
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To: rlmorel
his affiliation with that putrid anti-American group is what put him and me on opposite sides.

Exactly. Benedict Arnold was a damn fine general......and a traitor.
35 posted on 10/27/2011 9:18:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: stuartcr

For their service yes, but it’s what they do after discharge that makes them a good citizen of a scumbag.


36 posted on 10/27/2011 9:18:54 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: TN4Bush

Why are they always leftists/collectivists/statists?


37 posted on 10/27/2011 9:21:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek; Jim Robinson
I've noticed that you seem to strongly disapprove of the OWS movement.

Here's a serious question: Is our Constitutional right of assembly trumped by local ordinances? If our 1A rights are subject to 'no-camping' regulations, what time does curfew begin? 11pm? Would you complain if they moved it to an earlier time? In effect, once you agree with the position that local authorities can regulate 'assembly', just what are the limits? Why not, say, limited to between 2pm-3pm for public safety issues? (That is, non commute times.)

Now, let's jump over to the 2A. Do you agree that the 2A is trumped by local/state ordinances? If yes, which ones do you agree with? Do you agree with registration? If not, why not? If the 1A can be subject to permits, fees, etc, why not the 2A?

I'm having a hard time reconciling FR's position on this whole affair with regards to basic Constitutional rights. Just how far can they be regulated? What if JR's original march (in a wheel chair) was circumscribed by arbitrary time limits? What's the difference between shutting down the mall @ 1pm or 11pm? Because it's dark?

38 posted on 10/27/2011 9:21:14 AM PDT by semantic
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To: stuartcr
Interesting...we denigrate the law enforcement people when they do stuff we don’t like, and praise them when they do stuff we like...

Don't include me in that. I look at every individual case and make my decisions based on available evidence. Sometime I side with police and sometimes I side with the public.
39 posted on 10/27/2011 9:23:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: semantic
Where does the rest of the public's safe use and enjoyment of these public spaces fit in?

Or do they not enjoy any rights in this situation?

40 posted on 10/27/2011 9:23:25 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek

the left has their blood martyr.

The unions needed a dead body, and this is going to be it.


41 posted on 10/27/2011 9:25:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: semantic

I don’t have much use for bottom feeding scum.

If you don’t like that, consider yourself one of them and I’ll give you all the respect due to any other marxist scum.


42 posted on 10/27/2011 9:26:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: stuartcr
Interesting...we denigrate the law enforcement people when they do stuff we don’t like, and praise them when they do stuff we like...

Why is that interesting? That's how I treat every other single group of people on earth.

43 posted on 10/27/2011 9:26:54 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DCBryan1

Word of advice for anyone including a veteran who did two tours of duty in Iraq: DON’T STAND NEXT TO SOMEONE THROWING ROCKS AND BOTTLES AT COPS!


44 posted on 10/27/2011 9:30:27 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

At the beggining of this video footage it shows the guy on the ground. As the other protesters move away there appears to be some kind of smoking projectile that shoots from the guy on the ground?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBo4HMriwR4&feature=related


45 posted on 10/27/2011 9:30:59 AM PDT by Leep
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To: longtermmemmory

I don’t believe the guy is as critical as the story makes him out to be. Generally the first 48 hours are critical with this type of head injury but the danger fades pretty quickly after that.


46 posted on 10/27/2011 9:31:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Even the REMFs?


47 posted on 10/27/2011 9:32:14 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure why He is in that Hospital. A major Head Trauma unit for the VA is only about 30 miles from there. Prehaps He cannot be moved, or maybe not a Veteran.


48 posted on 10/27/2011 9:32:59 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: SeekAndFind

How about this simple mantra: when the police tell you to move ... you move.


49 posted on 10/27/2011 9:33:38 AM PDT by MatD
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To: Leep

00:20 shows smokey projectile appears to be emamating from the guy on the ground.


50 posted on 10/27/2011 9:35:10 AM PDT by Leep
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