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To: Moltke

Assuming a detonation at optimum height, a 9 megaton blast would result in a fireball some 4 to 5 kilometers (2.5 to 3 miles) in diameter.[9] The radiated heat would be sufficient to cause lethal burns to any unprotected person within a 28.7 kilometers (17.8 mi) radius (995 square miles (2,580 km2)). Blast effects would be sufficient to collapse most residential and industrial structures within a 14.9-kilometer (9.3 mi) radius (300 square miles (780 km2)); within 5.7 kilometers (3.5 mi) virtually all above-ground structures would be destroyed and blast effects would inflict near 100% fatalities. Within 4.7 kilometers (2.9 mi) a 500 rem dose of ionizing radiation would be received by the average person, sufficient to cause a 50% to 90% casualty rate independent of thermal or blast effects at this distance.


Your post isn’t particularly amusing in light of this, is it? This weapon is immoral, and its dismantling should be celebrated by all people of good conscience.


30 posted on 10/25/2011 9:37:43 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
I'm curious.

What, in your view, is a moral weapon?

I'd agree that the actual use of such a weapon may be immoral. But the mere prospect of the consequences of the use such weapons (conventional wisdom has it) kept two enemies apart for half a century.

The scenario wherein such weapons would have actually been used is apocalyptic. He who Is would render the verdict, not any of us.

31 posted on 10/25/2011 10:19:48 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: mvpel

Were Little Boy and Fat Man immoral weapons?


36 posted on 10/25/2011 10:45:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mvpel
This weapon is immoral, and its dismantling should be celebrated by all people of good conscience.

Do you own a firearm?

39 posted on 10/25/2011 10:56:21 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: mvpel; Moltke

Here’s the real deal: Tsar Bomba.

Tested on October 30th, 1961. It was planned as a 100 megaton device, however for the test, it was scaled down to 50 megatons.

The fireball reached nearly as high as the altitude of the release plane, 6.5 miles (10 km) and was seen almost 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) from ground zero. The subsequent mushroom cloud was about 64 kilometres (40 mi) high (nearly seven times the height of Mount Everest), which meant that the cloud was well inside the Mesosphere when it peaked. The base of the cloud was 40 kilometres (25 mi) wide. All buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick), located 55 kilometres (34 mi) from ground zero within the Sukhoy Nos test range, were completely destroyed. In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed, and stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 kilometres (170 mi). The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km (62 mi) away from ground zero. A shock wave was observed in the air at Dikson settlement 700 kilometres (430 mi) away; windowpanes were partially broken to distances of 900 kilometres (560 mi). Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage at even greater distances, breaking windows in Norway and Finland. The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth.[8] Its seismic body wave magnitude was about 5 to 5.25.[7] The energy yield was around 7.1 on the Richter scale but, since the bomb was detonated in air rather than underground, most of the energy was not converted to seismic waves.

Now THAT’S a bomb.


46 posted on 10/25/2011 12:33:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: mvpel

A number of smaller nukes will wreak the same havoc.

So what’s your point? Total nuclear disarmament? Good luck convincing the Chicoms, Norks, and Imadinnerjacket, peacenik.


52 posted on 10/25/2011 3:30:57 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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