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A Better Way to Secure the Border (Perry's own words on Immigration)
Office of the Governor of the State of Texas ^ | 14 Dec 2006 | Gov. Rick Perry

Posted on 09/08/2011 3:24:28 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss

A famous poet once wrote that “good fences make good neighbors.” However, this author did not have to deal with the realities of homeland security where a wall is only as strong as it is fortified by law enforcement personal. Building a wall along the entire Texas-Mexico border would not only be cost prohibitive – in the range of billions of dollars – it would create a false sense of security. And unless the federal government is willing to put enforcement personnel all along such a barrier – something it has refused to do for decades along a border without fencing – it will be no more successful at keeping illegal immigrants out of Texas than the Rio Grande River.

Strategic fencing in high-population areas makes sense. But I would like to see the federal government invest resources in increased border security operations like Operation Rio Grande rather than build a 1,200-mile wall.

With joint law enforcement operations we have managed to reduce crime in areas patrolled by border sheriffs by up to 60 percent during surge operations. With fixed wing and rotary assets in the air, more law enforcement boots on the ground, and a stronger boat patrol presence along the Rio Grande, we have virtually shut down drug and human smuggling activity during intensive operations. The success of these operations is the reason I will be asking the legislature for $100 million to secure our border.

As I have said repeatedly, you can’t have homeland security without border security, and there is no sense in reforming immigration laws if we cannot enforce them. And I have said equally as often that immigration reform without border security is meaningless.

Divisive language on the subject of border security and immigration reform is simply not constructive or useful in solving the problem. We cannot be a nation that is anti-immigrant because we are in fact a nation of immigrants. In fact, foreign-born citizens are some of the strongest supporters of tougher border security measures. Clearly, something has to be done because our hospitals, schools, and other service providers are being flooded with illegal immigrants at a great cost to taxpayers.

But to me neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer. The first unfairly rewards those who broke our laws, and the latter is not only unrealistic and unenforceable, but it would devastate our economy. That’s why I support a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status.

I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship.

Along with millions of Americans, I think it is wrong to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship ahead of those who have followed the law and are waiting to enter this country legally. And like millions of Americans I do not support amnesty.

With a more secure border and a reasonable guest worker program we can allow guest workers to help build our economy without offering citizenship. Many don’t even want to become citizens – they just want to provide for their families back home.

We just finished an election where the Washington politicians gave us a lot of rhetoric on immigration reform, but no real solutions. We need Washington to be a part of the solution. For us it is not just a subject of intense debate, it directly impacts how we live.

As Governor, I understand that I represent all the people of Texas, and not everyone sees eye to eye on this issue. But, I do promise that I will use reason and fact, not emotion and fear, to help us resolve this issue in a spirit of unity. We need to work toward solutions, not slogans. We need immigration reform that doesn’t compromise our security, and security that doesn’t compromise our economy. And I believe we can accomplish all of this with a guest worker program and real security measures that utilize our law enforcement tools to help secure our border.


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KEYWORDS: buildthefence; illegalimmigration; perry; perry2012; respectforlaw; rickperry
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Almost everyone I talk to believes we should build a full fence, just like the one Israel is building.
Nothing less will do, period and exclamation point.
61 posted on 09/08/2011 7:09:06 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Yosemitest

Does that include up the coast of california, or up the coast of the Gulf of Mexico? It’s easy to say “build a full fence”. The issue is when you start thinking about what it really means.

Are you really saying everybody you talk to wants to wall off the beaches in Southern California so Americans can’t use them?


62 posted on 09/08/2011 7:11:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: normy
A fence from Brownsville to San Diego!!!
It's an absolute must.
Only an American hating liberal would propose less.
63 posted on 09/08/2011 7:11:58 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You're so funny!
A fence to wall off the beaches, ah ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.
64 posted on 09/08/2011 7:14:53 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Yosemitest

So you agree, nobody would want to build a wall on EVERY ONE OF OUR BORDERS.

Which is what I said two posts ago, and you argued with me about.

Now you understand why I was correct. The question isn’t “do we build a fence on every border” — nobody wants to do that, and you think it’s funny.

The question then is simply a matter of how much fence DO we have to build.

Now that you understand, go back and read my original post that you mocked.


65 posted on 09/08/2011 7:18:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cripplecreek

If we’ve had guest worker programs, then what is it about guest worker programs that you’re not buying????


66 posted on 09/08/2011 7:24:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And I refer you to post #61 and post #63.
Perry is a liberal pawn of the establishment Republicans, the same old do nothings that got us into this mess.
We need a real conservative, not an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT loving pretender.
67 posted on 09/08/2011 7:28:30 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

We should also fully implement the US-VISIT program to track and deport visa overstays. We have the technology to do it.


68 posted on 09/08/2011 7:42:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Yosemitest
Perry is a liberal pawn of the establishment Republicans,

I'm sorry, but I'm really not at all interested in trading unsubstantiated barbs with you. I had a point to make, I made it, you objected to it, so I explained it to you. If you don't wish to discuss that further, you may go back to your rant, and I'll be on my way.

69 posted on 09/08/2011 7:45:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CA Conservative
"In 2007, the Congressional Research Service determined that the cost of building and maintaining just 700 miles of fencing would be approx. $49 Billion. If we extend that to the entire border, we are talking about close to $150 billion. If we accept your figure of $4.5 billion per year in refundable tax credits to illegals, it would take 33 years to recoup the cost of the fence (not counting patrolling and enforcing it) assuming we could totally eliminate those tax credits you mention."

If that were the only cost associated with illegal immigration, you'd be correct. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. As it is, you could cut your years to breakeven by a factor of 10, and still be erring on the side of caution. I recall reading a Heritage report that put the annual cost at over $50 billion.

Even if we needed to staff it with 10,000 permanent troops to be 90% effective, and the actual cost to build/maintain the fence ran a quarter trillion over the next 25 years, we'd be way ahead fiscally.

There's no coherent argument for leaving the border unsecured. The only other way to secure it would be with manpower alone, but that would require something like a half million trained personnel on continuous deployment. I daresay that would cost in excess of 50 billion per YEAR.
71 posted on 09/08/2011 8:08:04 PM PDT by CowboyJay ("Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day parade." - fieldmarshalj)
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To: normy
...she [Palin] was for path to citizenship and against deportation just a couple years ago.

Every time I see that posted I have to wonder if the person saying it is simply uninformed, or if they're willfully regurgitating a long-debunked meme.

For the umpteenth time - Palin was the bottom of the ticket in 2008 and essentially toed the McCain company line when she spoke to the press about illegal immigration. It's what EVERY VP candidate does.

You never heard her real opinions on this issue until she was freed of any obligation to that campaign. Now that she's an independent politician, the views she's expressed are right in sync with conservative Americans.

72 posted on 09/08/2011 8:23:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Marty62
AS I HAVE SAID AD NAUSEUM ON FR.

I want our troops home and on the southern border Period. This is an invasion nothing less.

I'm with you. Bring 'em home and let them protect AMERICA, dammit.

And while we're at it, let's throw every other good and workable idea at the problem. That is the only way we're going to stop it.

73 posted on 09/08/2011 8:32:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Yosemitest
You posted a link to Jeff Head's website, but that website left out the part of the Palin interview in which she said she would allow them to work (they would be deported if they didn't register and "follow the steps" but otherwise they could work here). I wrote Jeff to tell him that he left out an important part of that interview, but he never corrected it.

"PALIN: Then let's keep it -- then we won't complicate it anymore. Let's keep it simple. And let's say no, if you are here illegally, and if you don't follow the steps that at some point through immigration reform we're going to be able to provide, and that is to somehow allow you to work. If you're not going to do that, then you will be deported. You will be gone."

Video LINK

74 posted on 09/08/2011 11:07:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks for the update.


75 posted on 09/08/2011 11:09:00 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

See post #74.


76 posted on 09/08/2011 11:09:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

I believe that Perry is against building a fence in Texas. The river is very important to farmers along the border. It is important that their cattle have access to the river. They don’t want a fence that will cut them off from the river and in many places the border is in the middle of the river.

Texas has a huge water problem and you want to build a fence to keep them from a large source of that water.


77 posted on 09/08/2011 11:14:58 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Windflier

Palin and Perry both are in favor of guest worker programs for illegal aliens, and both seem to be opposed to a “path to citizenship,” although stopping a “path to citizenship” for guest workers, in the long run, may be more difficult than they think. Palin is for the complete fence, Perry doesn’t want to block access to the river on private property.


78 posted on 09/08/2011 11:19:26 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Valpal1
We’ve had guest worker programs before and they worked. I believe Perry favors another Bracero program, which requires them to return home.

Would Perry distribute 10 or 20 million work permits in the middle of a recession here?

Would there be any limit to the number of workers?

79 posted on 09/08/2011 11:31:36 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Yosemitest

I wish Palin (and now Bachmann) wouldn’t essentially advocate amnesty once the border is secured—but they’re 100x better on immigration than Perry is.


80 posted on 09/09/2011 3:02:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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