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Are members of Congress paid enough? BARF ALERT!
Yahoo News ^ | 08/29/11 | Chris Moody

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:25:05 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon

A few lawmakers have suggested in recent months that despite a $174,000 annual salary, generous health care and pensions, and perks for things like travel and mail, being one of the elite 435 ain't always what it's cracked up to be. And when you calculate the hours they put in, the pay isn't stellar either, they say.

This talk probably won't help Congress' approval rating. The federal government is the worst-rated industry in the country, viewed favorably by only 17 percent of Americans, according to a new Gallup survey.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: congress; congresspayroll; congresssalary
On the bright side, many of the comments are against raises for Congressidiots.
1 posted on 08/29/2011 6:25:08 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon
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To: SoCal SoCon

I say give them a raise and shame them into doing better


2 posted on 08/29/2011 6:26:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoCal SoCon

The hours they rack up????

They are on vacation most of the time.

Do we really need a federal government?


3 posted on 08/29/2011 6:27:26 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SoCal SoCon

it used to be we thought of them as “public servants”.

now, we think of them as parasites.


4 posted on 08/29/2011 6:28:00 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: SoCal SoCon
, being one of the elite 435 ain't always what it's cracked up to be. THE NERVE! Then quit/resign!
5 posted on 08/29/2011 6:31:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SoCal SoCon

It should be pay based on results.....I know they wouldn’t agree to that..... Also it would cost more than 0.25 cents to print the check! LOL


6 posted on 08/29/2011 6:32:43 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: SoCal SoCon

Don’t like the pay, then they shouldn’t run. Easy enough. Nobody’s holding a gun to their head.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 6:33:05 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: SoCal SoCon

no one forces them to run for office. IMO they are WAY overpaid.


8 posted on 08/29/2011 6:33:46 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: SoCal SoCon

I’m all in favor of them working a lot less - like maybe a month a year.

One of the most dangerous person in the world is a hard working congressman. Each new law they pass is a restriction on our freedom.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 6:34:39 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: SoCal SoCon

I’d quadruple their salaries if they’d guarantee not one penny more is earned by them or their spouses, or homo boyfriends. It would be worth it. No more speaking fees or other payoffs. In fact, they should be required to stay on vacation too.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 6:36:59 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: SoCal SoCon

They should each take a 20% cut immediately and 25$ for the President. Same with their allowances. Right off the top.


11 posted on 08/29/2011 6:39:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SoCal SoCon
A few lawmakers have suggested in recent months that despite a $174,000 annual salary, generous health care and pensions, and perks for things like travel and mail, being one of the elite 435 ain't always what it's cracked up to be.

Nice job, Mr. Moody. Last I checked, there were 535 members of Congress. Senators make the same amount of money as Representatives. Doofus.

12 posted on 08/29/2011 6:39:47 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: tsowellfan

I say the opposite. Cut their perks and privileges to the bone. Get rid of the gym, the restaurant, the gov’t-backed AMEX card, and reduce their pay to (at most) the national average.

The problem with Congresscritters and Senatebores is they get so addicted to the pomp and circumstance, not to mention assorted goodies, that come with their job that they forget what they were hired to do.

The Founding Fathers were adamantly against the idea of a professional political class and tried to arrange things so that service in government would be view, at best, as a noble but unpleasant duty — one to be fulfilled faithfully and diligently, but something that would be put aside with good cheer and relief when the time had finished.


13 posted on 08/29/2011 6:40:06 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Would you pay a baseball pitcher $174,000 if he couldn’t throw the ball over the plate?

Would you pay a babysitter $174,000 if she left your children to play in the street?

Would you pay your accountant $174,000 if he not only lost your money, but left your family hundreds of thousands of dollars in the red?


14 posted on 08/29/2011 6:40:21 PM PDT by lurk
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That should be 25% cut for the POTUS. I’m typing in a dark room!


15 posted on 08/29/2011 6:41:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ronin
I say the opposite. Cut their perks and privileges to the bone. Get rid of the gym, the restaurant, the gov’t-backed AMEX card, and reduce their pay to (at most) the national average.

That makes much more sense.

16 posted on 08/29/2011 6:43:16 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoCal SoCon

Take away all their benefits and give them a slight raise.

That way they might try to get a clue about how the sheeple have to live.

These people make millions off of backroom deals.

Come to think of it, take their benefits away and freeze their pay.


17 posted on 08/29/2011 6:45:59 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SoCal SoCon
Report:"The federal government is the worst-rated industry in the country, viewed favorably by only 17 percent of Americans, according to a new Gallup survey."

Response: That is a notable achievement for which those in government have labored mightily over the years. They lie, steal, copulate like rabbits with little boys and girls, are avaricious drunken druggies, vain, eat like hogs and babble incessantly

18 posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Ronin
Founding Fathers were adamantly...

Breaking news! The USGS revealed today that the epicenter of the VA earthquake was determined to be in a graveyard south of Washington DC. It was caused by the Founding Fathers rolling over in their graves!

19 posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:40 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SoCal SoCon

All elected officials should be paid the average wage in the US. That includes the income of those without jobs but any Government assistance is not included in the tabulation. So, if the income averages out to be $50,000 a year, that’s what they get. Not a single penny more.


20 posted on 08/29/2011 6:47:37 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

They should be paid far less, be under the same health care rules we are, pay into their own retirment like we do, and live under the same laws we do.
This isn’t Soviet Russia, we don’t have party apparachiks , zampolits, or a politburo yet..

How about paying them the LOWEST wage from their districts based off their actual hours worked at the LOWEST pay rate from said districts?
Also, take out in taxes from said pay just like we get..


21 posted on 08/29/2011 6:49:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: SoCal SoCon

I say pay them twice as much for the time they are on vacation than for the time they are sitting in Capitol Hill. The less time for mischief in DC the better.


22 posted on 08/29/2011 6:49:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: SoCal SoCon
It really isn't that much of a salary when you look at some of the qualifications they have. Most could be lawyers in a big law firm making huge money. It is always difficult to decide to make the big bucks or sacrifice for the country.
23 posted on 08/29/2011 7:03:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Darksheare
Isn't that unfair? First of all most of the wives don't work. We make more than 174,000 if you include both spouses together. A few years ago I didn't but a few years we have. It doesn't take much to make 174K if you have TWO people working together if they have any professionalism in them at all. Yes I know there are couples making 60K out there because they work in restaurants and such type places.
24 posted on 08/29/2011 7:09:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SoCal SoCon
And when you calculate the hours they put in...

There's the problem right there. They should only be in Washington for a week twice a year. Americans would probably be willing to let them keep what they are making now just to get them the hell out of there and leave us alone.

25 posted on 08/29/2011 7:10:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the Tea Party was a bunch of Islamofascist "rebels", would the state run "media" like us too?)
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To: SoCal SoCon
Not paid enough? Ha ! Don't make me laugh. A significant number of those in Congress should be in the slammer, frankly, for petty crimes (not even including treasonous disregard of the Constitution).
26 posted on 08/29/2011 7:16:11 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: SoCal SoCon
Not paid enough? Ha ! Don't make me laugh. A significant number of those in Congress should be in the slammer, frankly, for petty crimes (not even including treasonous disregard of the Constitution).
27 posted on 08/29/2011 7:16:17 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: tsowellfan

Congressmen have no shame. If they did, they would be working in a gay whorehouse, just to rebuild their reputations.


28 posted on 08/29/2011 7:18:15 PM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: tsowellfan

They haven’t done anything to merit the pay they get now.
If they were the dedicated public servants,they make themselves out to be, then they should consent to work for an hourly wage at a rate most Americans are paid. Let them earn it.


29 posted on 08/29/2011 7:29:53 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Ronin
That's the dirty little secret. They don't just get their salary. They get housing allowances, travel expenses, meals, re-imbursement for all kinds of things that WE pay out of our salaries. If I didn't have to worry about food, clothing, transportation, entertainment and housing myself, I could live very comfortably on 174K/yr.

The boo-hooing about how low the salaries are makes me wonder how often congresspeople start out from modest backgrounds, but somehow are millionaires when they retire or are voted out.

30 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:18 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Their pay should be multiplied by the percentage of surplus in the budget. When there is a deficit, they have to pay us.


31 posted on 08/29/2011 8:05:48 PM PDT by reg45
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To: napscoordinator

Most of them couldn’t make it in a law office, theirs or someone else’s. They sucked as lawyers and ran for Congress.

If it so damned bad why do they spend millions to get the job. Why do they stay until they are run off?

Steny Hoyer for example has been either a State legislator or a United States one almost from the day he graduated and passed the bar. Over 30 years in the Congress and is the most traveled Representative in the Congress. he has made a fortune at his $174,000 dollar job. Nancy Pelosi a Multi Millionaire.

Yes It’s terrible they are paid so little. /s/


32 posted on 08/29/2011 8:05:49 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: boop

And junkets. Lots of interesting “fact-finding” trips all over the world, on Air Force jets... God’s TEETH!!!

Who can ever forget San Fran Nan’s chocolate-covered birthday strawberries, courtesy of the USAF.

These hypocrites make me nauseous!


33 posted on 08/29/2011 8:11:38 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: boop
And junkets. Lots of interesting “fact-finding” trips all over the world, on Air Force jets... God's TEETH!!!

Who can ever forget San Fran Nan's chocolate-covered birthday strawberries, courtesy of the USAF.

These hypocrites make me nauseous!

34 posted on 08/29/2011 8:12:04 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

I believe they’re immune from insider-trading charges —they can know ALL MANNER of inside company info, trade on that basis, make MILLIONS and it’s all legal.

That’s a huge source of income.


35 posted on 08/29/2011 8:18:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: afraidfortherepublic
In all fairness Obama is only worth $25.00 a year.:)
36 posted on 08/29/2011 8:36:25 PM PDT by funfan
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To: SoCal SoCon

With all their perks? They should cut it by $100K.


37 posted on 08/29/2011 11:03:29 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: SoCal SoCon

“the pay isn’t stellar either, they say.”

A community organizer can make more, for goodness sake.


38 posted on 08/29/2011 11:37:35 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: SoCal SoCon
The federal government is the worst-rated industry in the country...

BS! Government isn't an industry, but they're sure doing a job on us.

39 posted on 08/30/2011 12:17:41 AM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: funfan

ROTFLOL! Good point, fanfan!


40 posted on 08/30/2011 2:10:33 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That should havebeen funfan!


41 posted on 08/30/2011 2:11:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SoCal SoCon

Send them home 6 months a year and that would essentially double their pay and it would lower the cost of fedzilla.

While we’re at it, toss in term limits.


42 posted on 08/30/2011 4:35:25 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: SoCal SoCon

I have no problem with paying them, but why don’t we let the states do it, after all, they represent us!

Then we cut out all pension rights. I don’t care if you serve for 40 years, no pension. That will effectively impose term limits right there.

Third, no health insurance.

Fourth. Travel costs can be part of a stipend they receive. If they want to go on an overseas “fact finding” mission, it needs to come out of the same budget.

Come to think of it, they really don’t even need to go to DC. They can do everything by videoconference and remain where they, and constituents, live.


43 posted on 08/30/2011 4:39:01 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: napscoordinator

And they whine that they need to be paid more.
It’s always ‘more’.
We’re being told to tighten our belts, eat our peas etc, and they keep voting themselves pay raises.
There needs to be some restrictions on that.
Congress wasn’t supposed to be a money making scheme.


44 posted on 08/30/2011 7:05:59 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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