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Warren Buffett goes through his tax return, talks about capitalism, euro threat, taxes, etc.
Charlie Rose ^ | August 15, 2011 | Charlie Rose

Posted on 08/16/2011 8:43:59 AM PDT by 49parallel

Warren Buffett goes through his tax return, talks about capitalism, hard work and taxes, the euro threat, etc.

"Warren Buffett discusses his New York Times Op-Ed piece 'Stop Coddling the Super-Rich' which calls on Congress to increase taxes on the Super-Rich like himself."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buffett; capitalism; debt; taxes
One really needs to watch and listen before commenting. Note his comments on capitalism and what makes America great.
1 posted on 08/16/2011 8:44:02 AM PDT by 49parallel
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To: 49parallel

Yo, Warren. If you wrote a check for a cool $billion I’m pretty sure the IRS wouldn’t object. Oh, and by the way, could you send me a little something next April?


2 posted on 08/16/2011 8:51:59 AM PDT by immadashell
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47 Days And FR Is Still Short Of Its Goal

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3 posted on 08/16/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: immadashell

He can. Anyone can. The US Treasury will accept money to retire the debt, above and beyond what you owe in taxes. Buffett should put his money where his mouth is, or shut the hell up.


4 posted on 08/16/2011 8:58:29 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas
Remember how liberals used to go to Barry Goldwater for quotes when he was obviously senile?

Warren Buffet is the new Barry Goldwater.

Buffet and his ilk need to set an example. Sell everything you own and live on Social Security and rely on Medicare. If these limousine riding liberals did this I might listen to what they say.

5 posted on 08/16/2011 9:07:55 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: 49parallel
All good and fine, but Congress won't stop at the "super-rich" because there isn't enough "squeeze" there to get them within 1 trillion "light-years" of the distance they need to go (read: money they "need"). So they will call people like me "super-rich" so they can squeeze some more from us and say we need to "contribute" (because compared to the food stamp rioters in Atlanta, all of whom will vote for Obama again, I am super-rich). And yet, all I can do is pay the over-inflated mortgage on my 2,550 square foot home that has a value far less than I paid for it (thank you Barney Frank), and pay my ultra-high utility bills (thank you Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid), and pay for food (thank you Ben Nelson)and gas (thank you Obama) and for my car (thank you Timmy Geithner)and my insurance (thank you John Kerry)...and have nothing left to save for my old age or even put away for when the water heater breaks.

So shut the F*&K Up Buffet, you senile old fool. Or give your F*$&ing billions to the government if you want to. But leave me the F*&K out of it.

6 posted on 08/16/2011 9:09:14 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: 49parallel

“...calls on Congress to increase taxes on the Super-Rich like himself”.

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What specifically is the rationale for “super-rich” citizens having to pay one thin dime more, for their share of the government than say, your average plumber’s apprentice?

That is, what has income or assets got to do with paying for an individual’s responsibility for the overall cost of government overhead?


7 posted on 08/16/2011 9:17:25 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: 49parallel

Hey Warren, there isn’t enough tax money to cover gov’t spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/boskin-get-ready-for-70-marginal-tax-rates-but-look-who-pays/


8 posted on 08/16/2011 9:43:14 AM PDT by Squidster
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To: 49parallel
Warren Buffett discusses his New York Times Op-Ed piece 'Stop Coddling the Super-Rich' which calls on Congress to increase taxes on the Super-Rich like himself.

Ain’t gonna happen, cousin. To increase taxes on the “Super-Rich” many in Congress would have to change the laws they use to shelter their own wealth. Buffett knows it, and is counting on the efforts of Congress for the continued sheltering of the majority of his wealth.

9 posted on 08/16/2011 9:49:51 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: 49parallel

Imagine a 90% tax rate on union members who make more than $250K/yr, that would capture the entertainers and athletes. I’d kinda like to see that just for the entertainment value.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 9:56:47 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: YHAOS

Wow! I don’t think ANYONE posting above even stopped to watch the interview.


11 posted on 08/16/2011 9:56:59 AM PDT by 49parallel
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To: YHAOS
Buffett Profits from Taxes He Supports

Buffett regularly lobbies for higher estate taxes. He also has repeatedly bought up family businesses forced to sell because the heirs’ death-tax bill exceeded the business’s liquid assets. He owns life insurance companies that rely on the death tax in order to sell their estate-planning businesses.

Buffett made about a billion dollars off of the Wall Street bailout by investing in Goldman Sachs on the assumption Uncle Sam would bail it out. He also is planning investments in ethanol giant ADM and government-contracting leviathan General Dynamics.

12 posted on 08/16/2011 9:58:46 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: 49parallel

The premise asserted by all liberals is that everyone can afford to pay more taxes-the “compassion” for the poor and economically disadvantaged evaporates when the IRS is pounding on your door. Proof of Obama’s lack of compassion is his suggestion that the deduction for charitable contributions be eliminated.


13 posted on 08/16/2011 10:09:37 AM PDT by Spok (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: scooby321

Buffett has also profited hugely from people’s financial fears and financial stupidity, yet going back 40 years he’s spoken many times to allay everyone’s fears and educate people on things financial. This is one of those times.

Watch the interview.


14 posted on 08/16/2011 10:50:13 AM PDT by 49parallel
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To: Spok

Perhaps...

...but I think that a “cap” on charitable deductions at, say, $12,000 would not harm anyone in the middle class.

At the same time, such a “cap” would stop the “elite” from deducting the full cost of their “charity galas” and other dressy parties from their gross taxable incomes.

If we need more tax revenues, why continue to subsidize the social gatherings of our self-annointed “elite”?

And please don’t get me started on the opportunities for tax-fraud that arise when a “donor” may deduct from his otherwise taxable income the full “appraised value” of a painting or a personal diary or a whatnot, which no museum would EVER have purchased at ANY price, if it had to use its OWN funds.


15 posted on 08/16/2011 11:22:11 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: 49parallel
I don't think YOU watched the interview. You did hear when he said we can always pays our bills because the US can just print more money. IS HE FREAKING INSANE? He then goes on in his next series of statements saying that if we print more money we devalue the dollar so he is basically talking out both sides of his mouth.

Also, consider this. You are Joe Smoe with $1 Billion made these past years with low taxes on the rich. Notice he only talks about Dividends and Capital gains. You could get your Dividends and Capital gains taxed at 100% and YOU WOULD STILL HAVE $1 BILLION to live the rest of your days with!!!

How about this. Ask M.r Generous Buffet that we want to tax TOTAL WORTH for everyone who has more than $100 million at 50% and watch him squirm.

This is his scam. He is the top of the heap from enjoying paying little to no taxes all these years. He sees others slowly catching up by doing the same damn thing he did all these years so he puts this nonsense out and tries to build a ceiling between him and those below him.

Oh and incidentally, if they increase taxes on Dividends, it will hit EVERYONE!

Perhaps folks should take an Economics 101 class and know he is just running a scam. The rich stay rich by not being stupid. Nothing he says is stupid FOR HIM.

If he thinks he does not pay enough in taxes, he is more than welcome to send a check to the IRS as others have stated.

16 posted on 08/16/2011 11:24:13 AM PDT by SabianKinslow
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To: 49parallel

Moreover, if you watch the interview you’ll see why Buffett, unlike many, many others, has real empathy and appreciation for those that are taking huge risks to preserve his and other’s ability to become extraordinarily wealthy.


17 posted on 08/16/2011 11:26:04 AM PDT by 49parallel
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To: SabianKinslow

He’s far from insane - he’s talking about the US having the ability to print money to meet its contractual bond obligations to avoid a large scale default, loss of confidence and seizure of American assets by China, et. al.. Printing money may not be right but it is nothing new, most nations have been doing this very thing for decades. As he said, China will get paid but they very possibly will be paid with a devaluing currency (in other words the Yuan will have to rise). Interestingly, a fear of a devaluing currency will encourage the foreign nations to buy more American goods with those dollars before the dollars depreciate. That may be good for American jobs.

He explains how the nations in the EU gave up that option to individually print currencies and so must now deal with their credit problems through other means such as asking their neighbour country to pay up for their debts. Its clear that they are also going to have to slash their deficit spending (aka “fiscal stimulus”). Fine and dandy if it works, but they are now fighting with one major self-inflicted wound if it doesn’t. And again, the rich won’t notice the change but the poor will loose their jobs and everything else they have. A bit like the Haiti economic model.

As for his wealth, he’s 80 years old and has led an extremely conservative life for decades and and has long said he was giving away most of his wealth - which he is now doing. I doubt he’d care much if the gov’t seized/taxed even 99% of it to deal with a crisis.

A scam? As is clear in the interview, the point is, he doesn’t see others catching up. He sees almost everyone else falling further and further behind. (Sort of a domestic “Shock and Awe” effect has hit the vast working population by those with the power and influence to sway tax and bailout policy. Like he said, the too-big-to-fail recipients walked away richer, not poorer for their failures at capitalism.)

Also watch the interview again before you brush him off with the ‘he could write a cheque to the IRS’ ploy. As Buffett himself says now and many decades ago, higher taxes on the super rich are pretty inconsequential and will do little to deal with American debt problems.

Let me know when you figure out why he feels they are necessary.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 12:09:16 PM PDT by 49parallel
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
All good and fine, but Congress won't stop at the "super-rich" because there isn't enough "squeeze" there to get them within 1 trillion "light-years" of the distance they need to go (read: money they "need").

The truly rich and super rich can either avoid taxes or pass on the higher cost. Raises taxes on them is just a first step to raising taxes on the middle class.

19 posted on 08/16/2011 12:18:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 49parallel
Wow! I don’t think ANYONE posting above even stopped to watch the interview.

Wow! What makes you think that because Buffett talks the talk, it automatically follows he walks the walk. How can someone who voted for 0bama be trusted about anything?

He speaks of a “low” tax rate on capital gains and dividends. I think the tax on capital gains is too high. Capital formation is generated from capital gains. Likewise dividends. And, the revenue generating dividends is taxed first before the dividends are paid, then again as dividend income (double taxation). That’s why dividend tax rates are relatively low. They need to be eliminated

Buffett says “The American System works.” He hasn’t noticed that 0bama and his buddies have no intention of letting the system work? Buffett says the instruments of government shouldn’t be used as weapons against the economy. He doesn’t see that that is precisely what the 0bama Administration has been doing since ’09? No! He blames the TEA Party! Huge red flag.

Buffett says the right things about reducing deficit spending - that spending is out of contol, then he negates the whole point by observing that 0bama shouldn’t greatly reduce spending now. When?

The fact that Buffett got a friendly hearing from Charlie Rose should tell you something.

20 posted on 08/16/2011 12:56:45 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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