McCain: tea-party 'foolish' on balanced budget (McCain rips Tea Party - THANK YOU, SARAH PALIN!)

Politico ^ | 2011-07-27

[rabscuttle385]

Veteran Sen. John McCain has had enough with tea-party-aligned lawmakers who have vowed not to vote to raise the debt ceiling before passage of a constitutional balanced budget amendment.

The Arizona Republican, the GOP’s 2008 presidential nominee, described their position as “foolish,” “deceiving, even bizarro,” given Americans’ anxiety about the sliding stock market, a halt on hiring and the possibility of higher interest rates related to the looming default.

[Lakeshark]

Oh, you weaseled big time, besides whining petulantly and obtusely it’s all you seem capable of doing.......

[DoughtyOne]

Despite you trying to change this to other subjects, I will continue to remind you.

This is about a person selling out our interests to back one of the most crooked politicians of our lifetime.

People reference McCain to be a traitor to our cause all the time here. And yet, backing that man doesn’t bother many of you.

Since when is it okay to back a traitor to our cause, for ANY reason?

This is a reasoned question. Trying to pass it off as immaterial, shady, or irrelevant is another Marxist tactic. You’ve really got those Rules for Radicals down pat.

[Lakeshark]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2754883/posts?page=95#95

[DoughtyOne]

And this from a person who for the third or fourth time, still can’t grasp what a declarative sentence is, as opposed to a question.

Who should this sentence be addressed to?

“Oh, you weaseled big time, besides whining petulantly and obtusely it’s all you seem capable of doing...”

Oh that’s right, you.

[DoughtyOne]

Long attention span there LakeSnark. /s

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2754883/posts?page=98#98

BTW: Is it okay for Conservatives to endorse traitors to our cause for any reason?

[Lakeshark]

Your rearless leader made it the subject of this thread, and you have agreed, it’s quite implicit in your question; once again, another post for you to read, it might help next time you check the mirror: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2754883/posts?page=101#101

[DoughtyOne]

I am not responsible for what other people say. I am only responsible for what I say. I am not a liar. You have turned out to be one.

You really are slippping...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2754883/posts?page=102#102

[DoughtyOne]

I almost let you slip that one in.

Rabscuttle385 posted a threat. That’s what FReepers do.

If I come in later and address him or other people, it doesn’t signify that anyone is my leader, anymore than you posting on a thread I am participating on makes me your leader.

Once again you are trying to change the subject from someone throwing their support behind a traitor to our cause.

Is it okay to support a traitor to our cause? Yes or no.

[Lakeshark]

Traitor? You're now suggesting she's a traitor to our cause?

I don't think the guy in this picture will agree with you......

[stephenjohnbanker]

Once again you are trying to change the subject from someone throwing their support behind a traitor to our cause.

Is it okay to support a traitor to our cause? Yes or no.

108 posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:45:18 PM by DoughtyOne ($1.8 tril yearly deficits = $18 tril in ten years. So now we’re proposing $4 tril in cuts? Really?)
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To: DoughtyOne; Jim Robinson
Traitor? You’re now suggesting she’s a traitor to our cause?

I don’t think the guy in this picture will agree with you......

109 posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:53:12 PM by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed

Lakeshark, you just pulled the SLEAZIEST trick I have ever seen pulled at Free Republic. Doughty one has been talking all along about McCain being a traitor, N O T Palin.
Let us let Jim Rob see it for himself!!

[DoughtyOne]

I did not state or infer that Palin was a traitor to our cause.

I did notify the moderator that you were inferring that I called Palin a traitor to our cause.

I asked you if you thought it was right for Conservatives to throw their support behind a traitor to our cause. I’m fairly sure you know Palin wasn’t running for office in 2010.

If you weren’t sure, she wasn’t.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks. Sadly, the DU, DailyKos, Huffington Post, MoveOn.Org type of shenanigans are also used here. Strangely enough, we have a person who seems to believe he/she is a Conservative, who is quite comfortable using the tactics right out of the book Rules for Radicals.

[Cyber Liberty]

It would probably matter a lot more if Sarah Palin’s “support” for McCain made any difference in McCain’s quest to return to the levers of power. It did not. McBastard was assured of reelection regardless of what Sarah Palin did or said. His pretend swing to the right was quite enough...he knew what it would take.

Let’s stop blaming Sarah Palin for McShit’s reelection. He had that with or without her.

[Lakeshark]

It's imply, not infer in the context you used fwiw.

And yes, I surely thought we were discussing Palin and your (and this thread's poster) attempts to make it appear that she was the main reason McCain won. It's one of the subjects of this thread, actually it's in the thread title if you didn't notice.

I did believe you implied this of her and that's where your question was leading, if you didn't mean that, plainly say so and I'll accept your saying it.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Also McCain ran FAR to the right. He did not mean a word of it.

[rintense]

DO, you and I have gone round and round on this. And I know your feelings. Perhaps your views have changed, but you have given much of the credit of McCain's win to Sarah Palin's endorsement.

But, even you can agree that Rabs added editorial of the headline is ridiculous, right?

What I find more curious is this: every time Rabs posts something negative about Sarah Palin, and is challenged, he runs away. Mysteriously, you, SJB, etc. come and seemingly take up for him. Why is that?

McCain hate aside, any other freeper who did this post and run stuff would be blasted.

[DoughtyOne]

It would probably matter a lot more if Sarah Palin’s “support” for McCain made any difference in McCain’s quest to return to the levers of power. It did not.

1. McCain's team thought that her audio endoresement was powerful enough to pay to air it for at least five months.
2. When Palin endorsed McCain, Hayworth's poll numbers dropped by ten points.
3. On election day, Hayworth lost by 24 points.  Half that number is 12 points.  All he needed to win was 12% plus one vote.
4. If something is wrong, it doesn't matter if you are successful in your attempt to do it.
5. Should it be okay for me to support Obama in 2012, since I couldn't get him elected on my own?

No, I can't say that Palin swung that election to McCain.  By the same token, I can't honestly say that if she had put her full support behind Hayworth, that he would not have won.

I try not to state that she handed the victory to McCain, because I am not certain of it.  I still find in incomprehensible that people who call themselves Conservatives and recognize how McCain has harmed our cause, could run interference for a person who helped him get re-elected.  Go up thread and listen to her endorsements knowing what you know.  Then tell me it doesn't bother you.

McBastard was assured of reelection regardless of what Sarah Palin did or said. His pretend swing to the right was quite enough...he knew what it would take.

The big movement on McCain came within days of Palin's endorsement.

Let’s stop blaming Sarah Palin for McShit’s reelection. He had that with or without her.

That is not a certainty.

[rintense]

Why is it sleazy? Lakeshark is addressing the elephant in the room. If Sarah Palin is guilty of supporting a traitor, then she and those who support her are also guilty. You or Rabs wouldn't dare go after Jim the way you go after any other Palin supporter, even though he has clearly stated his support of her AND hatred of McCain (like every other Palin supporter).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you (or one of your buddies) call Sarah Palin a traitor, or call her the enemy- or some crazy line like that last year during the election?

[rintense]

Thank you for your clear post, DO.

[Cyber Liberty]

That is not a certainty.

It is to me. I've been cussed out many times to my face because of my opposition to him...back in 2001. By folks I had never met before. McCain could have been found lying dead on the tracks, and he would have been reelected over and over again.

Just a little personal experience...here in AZ. Stop blaming Sarah Palin. Her endorsement meant nothing. It did not help McCain, it would not have helped Hayworth. This is word from the trench. If you don't like her, fine. But go find another reason.