Republican Politics: Romney, Palin, Bachmann And Perry Vie For The Lead

YouGov ^ | July 20 , 2011 | Staff

[curth]

With months to go before the first nominating event, the contest for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination is a real horserace, with four candidates — two announced and two unannounced — vying for the lead. In the latest Economist/YouGov Poll, Texas Governor Rick Perry and former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (both unannounced) are closely matched with two declared candidates, Minnesota Congresswomen Michele Bachmann and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. 

More than half of Republicans are enthusiastic about at least one of the candidates, though there is a chasm in enthusiasm between Republicans who identify with the Tea Party (76% of whom are enthusiastic) and those who do not (39% of them are enthusiastic). And a third of Republicans (compared with not quite a quarter of the nation overall) are following the campaign very closely.

Among the Tea Partiers — 36% of all Republicans — Perry, Bachmann, businessman Herman Cain and Palin all score in the high double digits. Romney trails. But Romney leads among non-Tea Partying Republicans, who make up 64% of the party. 

[tet68]

Hahaha, they all vie with Palin and she’s not even
declared...

[Molon Labbie]

I just hope and pray she runs. It will be a huge disappointment if she doesn’t. She would be the first candidate I will have ever sent a contribution to.

[ClearCase_guy]

Everybody sing — “One of these things is not like the other ...”

[cookcounty]

I agree that it’s down to these 4. I don’t see anyone else capable of a breakout.

[Nextrush]

She should run because she is the only one of the top four I can say for certain is with the people and not the politicians.

[Haiku Guy]

If Perry gets in, it will be a death struggle between Perry and Romney for the soul of the party. If Romney wins, we are through as anything other than Democrat Lite, and we might as well start working on a third party that can pick up the pieces after the collapse.

If Perry doesn’t get in, it will be Romnen all the way. The Republicans will win the White House, for all the good it will do us. Romney is not the man to stop this train.

[ClearCase_guy]

Note that everyone over 5% is a Conservative, with the exception of Romney who, in my opinion, is a complete construct of the Liberal media.

The GOP will decide: Conservatism or Romney? Which is to say: "Shall we Whig out in 2012?"

[Hattie]

Surely we can do better. In this huge country is there not a statesman somewhere?, anywhere?

[org.whodat]

This poll is as about as reliable as the governments poll yesterday approving of the senate debt ceiling, BS. Were they voters are not///????

[wmfights]

But Romney leads among non-Tea Partying Republicans, who make up 64% of the party.

This is frightening, 64% of the Pub party have their heads in the sand. I just read this week about one of Romney's key advisers supporting key elements of obamacare. Romney has not repudiated rommneycare. It's early, but if he is the nominee 0 gets reelected and we see the end of the Republic and the rise of the centralized socialist state.

If 0 wins the courts will be packed with radicals. 0 has already shown his contempt for our system of govt and has methodically gone around Congress to implement his radical agenda using the EPA, NLRB, and other agencies to do it. I currently live in a very liberal big city and most libs and independents are either clueless to whats going on, or enjoy seeing 0 "stick it to the rich guy".

Out of the 4 candidates I'm supporting Bachmann and Perry. I think Palin is unelectable. 

[SamAdams76]

Surely we can do better. In this huge country is there not a statesman somewhere?, anywhere?

In today's age of instant communication, 24/7 news channels, Twitter, etc., it is very hard for public figures to come across as statesmen.

Previous generations had the luxury of carefully scripting and choreographing their public appearances. They didn't have cameras in their faces 24/7 and didn't have to deal with millions of citizens micro-analyzing every move they made on computer bulletin boards, etc.

In other words, it was much easier to come across as a statesmen back then. Had George Washington and Thomas Jefferson been subjected to the kind of scrutiny our leaders of today are, they would not always come across as statesmanlike.

[org.whodat]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59542.html

[wmfights]

If Romney wins, we are through as anything other than Democrat Lite, and we might as well start working on a third party that can pick up the pieces after the collapse.

2 problems: 1, Romney can't beat 0; 2, there won't be any pieces to pick up.

Romney can't beat 0 because he is a blue blood elitist and because the American people will be repulsed by him when they learn what his Mormon faith preaches. There won't be any pieces to pick up because obamacare will survive in some form. Immigration reform will be pushed through and socialism with an all powerful central govt will be the law.

[P-Marlowe]

But Romney leads among non-Tea Partying Republicans, who make up 64% of the party.

I think they just pulled that number out of their butts. I dare say that if the Tea Party's principle platform is government reform and reining in the out of control spending, then nearly all Republicans and most independents would number themselves among the Tea Party Republicans. In fact, if asked, I would bet my house that Romney would claim to be a "Tea Party" Republican. But then Romney will say anything to get elected.

Out of the 4 candidates I'm supporting Bachmann and Perry. I think Palin is unelectable. 

I think Perry is the most electable. I suspect that whoever the candidate is they will beat Obama. The veneer has come off. Americans are sick and tired of seeing Obama's face and every time he shows it, the markets crash and unemployment rises.

Palin has my undying support at this point. She inspires me with her grit and her grace under fire. Of all the candidates, I think she would make the best President.

[curth]

I know, only the polls that show Palin doing poorly can be relied on.

[RED SOUTH]

Palin is running but not for the republican nomination, Organize4Palin will get her on the ballot in 50 states , the republicans will nominate Romney to run against Obama and Palin will more than likely win a third way race.

[truthfreedom]

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http://cdn.yougov.com/downloads/releases/econ/20110716_econTabReport.pdf
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Obama vs

with leaners
Paul - 8 6
Gingrich 19 18

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http://cdn.yougov.com/downloads/releases/econ/20110709_econTabReport.pdf

Cain - 11 11
perry 10 10

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bachmann 12 12
palin 20 20

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huntsmann 14 14
romney 5 3 wih leaners

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Bachmann is trending down with Republicans
9% - JULY 17
12% - july 9
18% - july 2
9% - june 25

[Ocarterma]

Yeah and I thought Obama was “unelectable”....boy was I wrong.

[RED SOUTH]

I think Romney Bachmann and Perry are all beatable by Obama. Romney for obvious reasons , Bachmann because the media is having an easy time of making Bachmann look crazier than they ever made Palin look. Bachmann has not been as resourceful as Palin in countering the onslought of the media. But in the end , Bachmann's paper thin resume will do her end. No executive experience , only 5 yrs in the house and no legislation passed. She looks weak on paper and a narrative that she would be ineffective as President will hold. Who cares if you have the right ideas if you can't manage to make any of them happen. Perry would lose because he looks and talks like Bush and is a NWO token like Bush. The voters do not want a 2nd Obama term but will not switch horses in mid stream for a 3rd Bush term. We need to keep in mind , Obama will be hard to beat but we can do it with the right candidate. Many around here thought he would be easy to beat in 08 , we saw how that worked out.