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Missouri Lowers CCW Age to 21. Finally.
The Truth About Guns ^ | 11 July, 2011 | Daniel Zimmerman

Posted on 07/12/2011 5:29:35 AM PDT by marktwain

23 years of age, the Show Me state has had the highest age requirement for concealed carry in the nation. Legally an adult? Yep. Exercise the franchise? Check. Join the Army? Yes sir. Carry a heater? Uh, no…we really think you should really wait another five years. Until now, that is. Governor Jay Nixon, a Democrat, signed a new gun rights bill into law Friday that lowers the CCW age to 21. Other significant improvements enacted by the new law include prohibiting punitive sales taxes on firearms, enabling easier long gun purchases from contiguous states and allowing Missourians to own machine guns and suppressors (as long as you comply with federal law). Not big changes in the great scheme of things. But it’s more steady progress in the almost nation-wide advance of gun rights. And who wouldn’t be happy about that?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: age; banglist; ccw; jaynixon; missouri; mo
Incrementaly, we gain back our rights under the Constitution.
1 posted on 07/12/2011 5:29:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It was probably just an oversight or a technical error, but in drafting this legislation, the Missouri General Assembly made criminals out of knife collectors. Previously, there was a “curios and keepsake” exception to the Missouri law that prohibited possession of switchblade knives. The new language of this bill removed the “curios and keepsake” clause. Now, anyone who has an old Schrade Presto switchblade in their knife collection (or any other automatic knife) is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 5:43:09 AM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: marktwain

I know this is weird but I have no problem if an individual state wants to step outside the norm and make its own laws that differ from the rest of the crowd. If the people of a state want something different for their young adults, that’s fine with me.

This idea that everyone should conform to federal law is what I see as being wrong in America. #1 It gives the Feds too damn much authority! What good is a state constitution if it has to conform to the federal one?


3 posted on 07/12/2011 7:43:23 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: marktwain

Pretty telling that it was a Democrat that signed this into law.

The fight is being won, and even ememies of freedom have to sign these laws now.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 8:18:11 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Balding_Eagle

Nixon waited until the last work day before the bill would have been made law by default.

If he had vetoed it, it would have likley passed in the veto session later this summer.

Also, the bill makes it a Missouri felony to attempt to purchase a firearm if you are a prohibited person, since the feds rarely prosecute.


5 posted on 07/12/2011 2:46:12 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior

Thanks, that explaination makes perfect sense. It reflects just who the Dems are, once backed into a corner, all they can do is try and look good.


6 posted on 07/12/2011 4:43:59 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: B4Ranch

I’m with you for the most part, however, I am of th eopinion that if a person is consdiered a fully fledged adult at 18 by law, then all priveledges and immuniteis shgould apply unformly to adults.

Cherry picking privledges is for parents for thier minor children, not the state towards a certain class of “adults”.

As far as I am concerned, 18 is the magic age for all adult behavior choices.

CCW is not the same as many other actions, in MO, one has to be vetted through local, state and federal crime/court records and then recieve training & certification by a third party instructor (firearms and law) and finally be endorsed by the sheriff.

I doubt there are other licenses (other than professional certifications) that require such stringent processes to exercise a constitutional right....

We ought to require journalists to undergo such requirements-at least we would likley get better reporting (compared to titled interpreationand spin of a story).

Best;


7 posted on 07/13/2011 8:01:34 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior

Darn; should have proofed it before hitting “post”

Sorry!


8 posted on 07/13/2011 8:03:25 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior

I don’t believe CCW’s should be required in your own state but if they are and you can’t live with that, then the answer is to either work to change it or move.

I like the idea of different laws in each state because as an adult it gives you a choice as to what type of community you wish to live in.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

Okay, let’s jog thios pony a bit.

Say Joe lives in Arkansas which has a provisional Driver license at 16. NY on the other hand, say minors under the age of 18 cannot drive w/o an adult. (made up scenario, as I am not familiar with other states’ DL regs)

Joe finds himself in NY, can he drive legally? I thnk the answer is Yes, full faith and credit and all applies. But not for CCW? I don’t get it. Do you?


10 posted on 07/14/2011 3:22:26 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior; marktwain

>>Joe lives in Arkansas which has a provisional Driver license at 16.<<

Joe can drive in Arkansas, ONLY in Arkansas. Why you shout?
A “provisional” Driver’s license is ONLY for the state in which it is issued.

In my opinion nobody should be required to buy a permit to carry concealed in their HOME state. Permits should ONLY be needed if you wish to travel outside of your HOME state and carry concealed in other states.

Why you ask? Because you are a citizen of your home state, not of the adjoining states or the states beyond.


11 posted on 07/14/2011 4:29:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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