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"Imagine" has done a lot of damage and been one of the most powerful of the Left's propaganda tools. I hope conservatives will recognize that and realize what an opportunity this is to deal a blow to the Left and take away one of their most powerful symbols.
1 posted on 07/01/2011 10:24:17 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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1979 was about the same time I was having my conversion from being a young Democrat perfectly at ease with the Hippy generation around me, to being a staunch Reagan God & Country conservative. John was always the “deep thinker” of the four, so I’m not too shocked about this revelation. Now if it was Paul, now that would be a real shocker.


2 posted on 07/01/2011 10:29:42 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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3 posted on 07/01/2011 10:30:28 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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While I agree with the thrust that it’s not surprising that John had wised up in his “old age” - the caveat here is that John always enjoyed stirring the pot - how much of this is heartfelt belief and how much of this is love of a good argument might be a bit difficult to tease out since it happened “all those years ago”.


5 posted on 07/01/2011 10:33:22 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Welcome to the USA - where every day is Backwards Day!)
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When Lennon was killed, I was in 7th grade. The song “Imagine” was played every 15 minutes on the radio.

Two friends, one who I had been close friends with since 1st grade, were killed by a car while riding their bikes. I was devastated and still think about him. His name is Chad Chollette.

His Father and Mother played “Imagine” at his funeral because Chad loved the song. But we were too young to know what the song meant.

I guess I have a strange connection to that song. I could never listen to it and not think of Chad.


6 posted on 07/01/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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One of the things that come from demographic analysis is that people grow up. Too often in our politics when people talk about something being demographically inevidible they forget that one simple fact of reality. Now it is true we have far more adults with minds of spoiled children but thankfully most do still grow up.


9 posted on 07/01/2011 10:42:05 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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The libtards can console themselves with the fact that Paul is still one of theirs.


11 posted on 07/01/2011 10:45:11 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I shall refrain from using profanity, except when discussing house rent and taxes." - Mark Twain)
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Well strap me to the side of a pig and roll me in the mud! I’m a huge Beatles fan, and even have a John Lennon signature Rickenbacker! However, I’ve always felt most of them were flaming idiots ideologically. This revalation about John is interesting to say the least. It would have been interesting to see how he would have reacted to the current occupant of the White House.


12 posted on 07/01/2011 10:46:03 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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The bottom line is that John Lennon was not all that bright and certainly was not very well educated.

He did have artistic talent as he was a very clever lyricist and wrote some excellent tunes. This cannot be denied and I love a lot of the tunes he came up with.

But I've learned over the years that this means next to nothing when it comes to understanding the issues of the day. In this regard, he was no better at understanding these complex issues than the average plummer or hair stylist (no disrespect meant to those jobs).

My anger is directed at those in the press who put the microphone in his face and tried to use him for their own political reasons. In the mid 1950s when Elvis came onto the scene, nobody cared about his political leanings (if he had any) except to know he was a patroit in that he didn't complain about being drafted. But withing 10 years there was this change in American society. All of a sudden, those in the media began to think it was important that the political views of celebrities should be made public and that it was significant. This is a disturbing trend that hasn't stopped since this time. We have seen Buffoons elected to the governorship of California and the senate from Minnesota simply based on this trend. It's a very negative thing.
13 posted on 07/01/2011 10:48:03 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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"Imagine" has done a lot of damage and been one of the most powerful of the Left's propaganda tools.

One reason it's been so effective is because it's so brilliant in its simplicity. Any child can learn the entire song on piano in about five minutes.

14 posted on 07/01/2011 10:55:46 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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"Imagine" is a truly nauseating piece of work. Nothing matters except John Lennon's socialist Utopia, no doubt achieved at the point of a gun, as all socialism is (except possibly in Sweden).

I have my doubts about the validity of this news, and it means nothing, anyway. Norma McCorvey changed her mind, too. So what? The damage is done.

I think someone is looking for their 15 minutes of fame, nothing more.

15 posted on 07/01/2011 10:59:46 AM PDT by Batrachian (Prepare for four more years)
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“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”


16 posted on 07/01/2011 11:04:39 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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Someone needs to make a “JOHN LENNON WAS A REPUBLICAN” bumper sticker. That should turn some heads. Or make them explode.


18 posted on 07/01/2011 11:07:34 AM PDT by struggle
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I seem to remember a letter John wrote to David Marsh of Rolling Stone magazine. It was in response to Marsh criticizing Lennon for not recording anything new. This must have been late 70’s or so. Lennon let him have it good. Tried google search for it, but can’t find it. Anyone remember this?


20 posted on 07/01/2011 11:18:33 AM PDT by robby (xbox360 gamertag...........bainrowe)
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The left REALLY gets PO’d when you mention Eldridge Cleaver became a GOP conservative.

They have erased him from history in a way that would make Stalin proud.


27 posted on 07/01/2011 11:39:57 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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John Lennon met Ronald Reagan after their separate interviews on Monday night football back in 1974. Here it is:

Giffords recollection. Ronald Reagan was showing John Lennon the finer points of the game.

YouTube - John Lennon on Monday Night Football 12/9/1974

3 min - Oct 9, 2010 - Uploaded by NeilFraudstrong This is an interview that John gave on December 9th, 1974, during Monday Night Football. John is his usual humorous self and it is a ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBapLm2Shcc

33 posted on 07/01/2011 12:06:36 PM PDT by johngrace
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I remember reading in his last major interview which was for Playboy magazine back in 1980 (hey they had that kind fo clout back then) and from what I remember he was bashing the liberals and hippies for misunderstanding him thru the years, for misinterpreting all that imagine stuff.

He said his whole message is to make your own life not live through others, nor expect answers from others which is exactly what liberals do. They select an idol (Obama) and expect that person to solve all their problems. He was really bashing them if I remember, and from what I later learned he told Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman that they were idiots. That they couldn’t speak never mind lead people, so he dropped out of that whole leftist scene.

He was never “liberal liberal”...Listen to that song “Revolution”...The song is about people who want to revolt then asking the question “Well WTF are you going to do if you win”? “We all want to see the plan”

The guy was an inredible incredible speaker and an incredible mind. Even at the age of 4 in 1964 I perked up when I heard him speak one day on the radio. He had what my brother says a “saxophone voice” just incredible harmonics coming out of his voice. Sinatra was another who had that kind of voice, and if Lennon chose to become a politician instead of a musician the guy obviously would have gone places.

What I got from him is although he did crazy stuff, he always fell back on basic logic and hammered it home. Like David Bowie once said “He cut through all the BS and explained the unexplainable in two words or less”.

It’s true. He is not telling us to embrace communism, he is just saying “Imagine”...Imagine if the world is like this. But then he also says it can never work because youd have to be a dreamer with everyone dreaming the same thing, thinking the same way which is impossible. Yes it’s naive thinking but then again it’s just a song.

Then he wrote songs like “Grow old with me” and “Beautiful boy”. And people to this day still think McCartney is an equal to this guy in terms of writing talent? Are you kidding me? Don’t they find it a bit odd that the second he split from Lennon his songwriting quality went from “Let it be” to “Biker like an icon”??

Here’s a rare vid ..Yes this is him......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4rBsbL0M6k&playnext=1&list=PL1BDF8281AD2C2C10


44 posted on 07/31/2011 4:41:12 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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Pity. Had he lived, he could of run for POTUS now. For a 3rd Party.


45 posted on 07/31/2011 4:43:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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46 posted on 07/31/2011 4:46:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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