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1 posted on 04/25/2011 7:29:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Fair trade is a winner.


2 posted on 04/25/2011 7:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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... no evidence that a rising level of imports or growing trade deficits have negatively affected the U.S. economy.

Baghdad Bob got a new gig, I see.

3 posted on 04/25/2011 7:30:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Golly, if we keep growing our jobs like they are with free trade we will get out of this recession in no time.
4 posted on 04/25/2011 7:32:36 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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i’d vote for trump any day.


5 posted on 04/25/2011 7:34:50 AM PDT by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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If this guys patently false illogic is the best they have to throw against Trump, the libertarians will spend another election having little impact on the outcome.
6 posted on 04/25/2011 7:38:33 AM PDT by Prokopton
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The long and short of this is, the importers are shaking in their boots about losing some of their mark up. Nothing like selling a ten dollar pair of canvas boots for a 150 bucks.


7 posted on 04/25/2011 7:39:27 AM PDT by org.whodat
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Charles Krauthammer concluded..

Charlie the chump as concluded he has no problem with the airport feel ups - if Americans have a problem with it they should stay home. Up yours, Charlie - what you conclude is null and void.
8 posted on 04/25/2011 7:39:34 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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Why indeed would the Chinese government intentionally decimate an American economy on whose health Chinese people depend?

Of course the Chinese have our best interest at heart. How could you think otherwise? (sarc)

9 posted on 04/25/2011 7:39:48 AM PDT by TN4Bush
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"George Mason University economist Don Boudreaux adds:

It's true that manufacturing jobs are decreasing, but rather than blame the Chinese, [Trump's] anger would be better targeted... if [he] blamed American innovators and even American manufacturing workers."

Our "innovators" are certainly as advanced as the Chinese. I'm guessing it's the government stew of workplace oversight along with the fact our workforce (at least used to) enjoys a higher standard of living.

11 posted on 04/25/2011 7:48:38 AM PDT by moehoward
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But taxing previously untaxed products does constitute a tax increase

So what. If they're made in the U.S., they won't have a tariff.

That's called "incentive".

12 posted on 04/25/2011 7:51:05 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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In fact, since 1980, the U.S. economy has grown more than three times faster during periods when the trade deficit was expanding as a share of GDP compared to periods when it was contracting.

Nice little effect-and-cause argument. Because the US economy is doing well we can buy foreign products. This is especially true with oil where a flourishing economy and growth in oil uses cause us to both import more oil and drive up the per barrel price of that oil.

My biggest complaint about Trump is his willingness to have government cronies use eminent domain to benefit his projects at the expense of those who have had their property expropriated. While this is better than Obama doing this to the entire economy rather than just a few projects, it would be a "hold my nose" moment in November 2012 if Trump won the GOP nomination. Trump also has expressed his favor on the Supreme Court's Kelo v. New London decision, which is probably the worst decision in this generation of the court.

15 posted on 04/25/2011 7:55:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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Wow, I think it is a real GOP winner to opt for the US getting the unfair part of Free Trade /s, but then I ain’t for a NWO either.

Maybe we could actually manufacture again instead of assembling parts made in China.


17 posted on 04/25/2011 7:58:21 AM PDT by dforest
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Trump also said that China "is stealing all our jobs" and "making all our products."

Actually, Trump is a little off there. US manufacturing jobs and factories were virtually handed to China and other cheap laobor nations on a silver platter with trade policies that could have had no other result.

22 posted on 04/25/2011 8:04:32 AM PDT by Will88
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I’m all for “Free Trade”, but that sure as hell ain’t what we’ve got today.

Also, a question, would we have allowed ourselves to send our manufacturing to Japan in the 1930s, like we’ve done to China?


24 posted on 04/25/2011 8:05:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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This is what it comes down to: Globalists vs. Patriots. It’s all good and well to grovel at the altar of “Free Trade”, but you cannot deny that the globalists and international bankers have gotten rich off the dismantling of economies world wide. Do you think Soros is the only villain?

Go on Youtube and watch “Argentina’s Economic Collapse”. It’s a multiple-part series about how globalists came in and cherry-picked the productive assets of the country and left their government, which is no more or less corrupt than our own, hopelessly in debt.

The truth is that the average IQ is still 100. An average worker in any industrial country wants to work with things, not ideas. These people have been taught for a hundred years that they should be able to make a living working 40 hours per week. Any less and they think the boss is shorting their hours; any more and they are being screwed unless they get bonus pay.

In the town where I grew up, the cotton mills are gone. The machines have been crated up and sent God-knows-where, and the buildings have been torn down. I’m not saying that cotton mill jobs were the greatest jobs ever, but average people could make a living there. In order to change that for the better, the educational establishment would have had to shift the bell curve to the right, and we all know that hasn’t happened.


25 posted on 04/25/2011 8:11:23 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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In mathematics, it is useful to check the limits of an equation or calculus. Taking “free Trade” to its logical limits; Nothing should be produced by anyone but slaves as that is the lowest common (cheapest most efficient) denominator, logically then nothing else makes sense the the Free Trader. The ultimate goal is to eliminate all manufacturing from every developed country and make a killing to boot. Free traders are sellouts to commies, nothing else.


26 posted on 04/25/2011 8:12:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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When we Americans prosper so much that domestically-produced stuff is insufficient to meet our needs, we buy more and more stuff from other countries.

This 'genius' fails to mention our (admitted) unemployment rates have been near 10% for a couple of years, and that real unemployment is 17% - 18%, and probably even higher than that, and has been high for a few decades.

And he also fails to mention that means tested government benefits now paid to welfare recipients and low wage earners now total $950 billion per year.

So, trade deficits are great? The higher the better? This idiot fails to connect the soaring imports and soaring trade deficits and soaring real unemployment and soaring government benefits paid out to working age adults who don't work, or work in low paying jobs, he fails to connect all that with our soaring budget deficits and national debt.

This article illustrates the sort of thinking that has put us in the financial and real unemployment position we've been in for years.

27 posted on 04/25/2011 8:12:30 AM PDT by Will88
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Protectionists are not conservatives. Didn't smoot hawley basically turn a recession into the great depression?
31 posted on 04/25/2011 8:24:10 AM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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Companies that hire elsewhere when Americans are unemployed is not to be admired any more than a company that sells American secrets to make a profit.


33 posted on 04/25/2011 8:32:26 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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Productive workers and continuously improving technology keep America in first place output-wise and render domestic manufacturing job growth categorically unnecessary. That's reality.

That is outright nonsense. Do Americans still wear clothing and shoes? Are those now being made by robots in the USA?

Few of the labor intensive jobs, or jobs that required significant manual dexterity, or manual labor, have been replaced by technology since WWII. They've simply been exported to cheap labor nations like China, and they were not high paying union jobs, but mostly lower paying, non-union jobs.

Of course there has been a need for manufacturing job growth to supply the US consumer market. And that job growth has occurred. It's just occurred in cheap labor nations where the jobs to supply US consumer products have been located.

There are probably more jobs necessary to supply the US consumer market now than ever before because there are so many products that didn't exist only three or four decades ago, not to mention a population that has doubled since the 1950s. And those labor intensive jobs to produce clothing and shoes and many other products for the US market also still exist - just in various cheap labor nations rather than in the USA as they did until they were exported started in the 1950s until the present.

35 posted on 04/25/2011 8:39:20 AM PDT by Will88
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