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Pilot duped AMA with fake M.D. claim
DAILEY HERALD ^ | 12/12/2010

Posted on 12/13/2010 7:51:30 AM PST by KeyLargo

Pilot duped AMA with fake M.D. claim

Article updated: 12/12/2010 07:08 PM AP EXCLUSIVE:

MILWAUKEE (AP) — He seemed like Superman, able to guide jumbo jets through perilous skies and tiny tubes through blocked arteries. As a cardiologist and United Airlines captain, William Hamman taught doctors and pilots ways to keep hearts and planes from crashing.

He shared millions in grants, had university and hospital posts, and bragged of work for prestigious medical groups. An Associated Press story featured him leading a teamwork training session at an American College of Cardiology convention last spring.

But it turns out Hamman isn't a cardiologist or even a doctor. The AP found he had no medical residency, fellowship, doctoral degree or the 15 years of clinical experience he claimed. He attended medical school for a few years but withdrew and didn't graduate.

His pilot qualifications do not appear to be in question — he holds the highest type of license a pilot can have, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman said. However, United grounded him in August after his medical and doctoral degrees evaporated like contrails of the jets he flew. He resigned in June as an educator and researcher at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Mich., after a credentials check revealed discrepancies, a hospital spokeswoman said.

Doctors who worked with the 58-year-old pilot are stunned, not just at the ruse and how long it lasted, but also because many of them valued his work and were sad to see it end.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailyherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: ama; doctor; fraud; license; michigan; williamhamman

In this March 14, 2010 file photo, William Hamman watches data on a computer as he supervises doctors during a cardiology simulation at the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta. Hamman, an airline captain who lives in Michigan, claimed to be a cardiologist and trained other doctors in teamwork. But he never got a medical degree.

1 posted on 12/13/2010 7:51:32 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

And he “supported” Obamacare?


2 posted on 12/13/2010 7:51:55 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: KeyLargo; therightliveswithus

Catch me if you can!!!


3 posted on 12/13/2010 7:53:08 AM PST by sinanju
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To: KeyLargo

Why would a pilot want to be a fake doctor oO, you already have a pretty cool and well paying job...

but some of his coworkers comments seem to indicate he actually knew what he was doing as a doctor, maybe an ufortunate case of someone who had the skills but just couldn’t get past the ‘book learning’ required to become an official doctor, sad end for someone of his years in any case.


4 posted on 12/13/2010 7:56:13 AM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: sinanju
Catch me if you can!!!

Seems that they could.

5 posted on 12/13/2010 8:00:15 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: KeyLargo

I find this exceptionally hard to believe in today’s data driven world. Almost all State Boards of Medical Licensure will verify licenses online to anyone at no charge. Furthermore, the American Board of Internal Medicine, which certifies Cardiologists also allows the public to verify certification online.

Any hospital or training institution who employs a physician without verifying basic information like licensure or Board Certification is grossly negligent.


6 posted on 12/13/2010 8:00:15 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Eat moer DUCK! War Eagle!!!!)
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To: battousai
had the skills but just couldn’t get past the ‘book learning’

The AP found he had no medical residency

Residency is not about "book learning." It's clinical experience, and residency usually lasts longer than medical school. I wouldn't want this guy with a superficial acquaintance with medicine working on a complex case of someone I cared for.

7 posted on 12/13/2010 8:02:01 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: KeyLargo

Since I know that the ankle bone is connected to the leg bone and the leg bone to the thigh bone, am I now qualified to be an orthopedist?


8 posted on 12/13/2010 8:11:07 AM PST by JPG (Sarah dedicated her new book to Trig: "I'm glad you're here.")
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To: from occupied ga
I wouldn't want this guy with a superficial acquaintance with medicine working on a complex case of someone I cared for.

Apparently his acquaintance with medicine was anything but superficial.

9 posted on 12/13/2010 8:12:24 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: CholeraJoe
Any hospital or training institution who employs a physician without verifying basic information like licensure or Board Certification is grossly negligent.

This guy's apparent competence probably held off any suspicions regarding his qualifications. But, yes, his background should have been determined much sooner.

10 posted on 12/13/2010 8:13:58 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: CholeraJoe

The relatives and their attorney of every patient he had anything to do with that died are thinking that exact thing right now.

I wonder if his malpractice insurance will refuse to honor any action against him, I imagine they will tell anyone making a claim to go fly a kite. This guy will lose everything soon I think.


11 posted on 12/13/2010 8:15:24 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: therightliveswithus
"Even after learning of Hamman's deception, the American Medical Association was going to let him lead a seminar that had been in the works, altering his biography and switching his title from "Dr." to "Captain" on course materials. It was canceled after top officials found out."

B.O. posed with 'fake doctors' at the White House where he was endorsed by the AMA.

It was a joke how the White House staffers had a supply white coats which they handed out to the attendees for the Obama photo op.

"Democrats got their AMA endorsement of ObamaCare from immediate past president James Rohack, who was last seen leaving the Beltway on a turnip truck."

WSJ.com * NOVEMBER 22, 2010

12 posted on 12/13/2010 8:16:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

This reminds me of a very strange situation where a community organizer scammed a whole nation into believing that he was the messiah. Couldn’t happen here though, as the MSM would see through his plan and alert us. /s


13 posted on 12/13/2010 8:18:06 AM PST by ab01
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To: KeyLargo

He stys at the Holiday Inn Express.


14 posted on 12/13/2010 8:21:25 AM PST by boomop1
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To: boomop1

ooops stays


15 posted on 12/13/2010 8:22:14 AM PST by boomop1
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To: from occupied ga
I wouldn't want this guy with a superficial acquaintance with medicine working on a complex case of someone I cared for.

Oh for sure, I was just wondering why some of the other doctors in the article claim to mis his work, as if he actually knew what he was doing.
16 posted on 12/13/2010 8:22:52 AM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: CholeraJoe

There a number of free websites where patients can check on medical provider credentials:

Sites for Checking Health-Related Credentials

http://www.ihealthpilot.org/research/lookup.shtml

https://www.abms.org/WC/login.aspx

http://www.consumerhealthratings.com/index.php?action=showSubCats&cat_id=11

http://www.healthgrades.com/


17 posted on 12/13/2010 8:23:32 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

On the other hand, most of his schooling would have been
outmoded in todays world, and if he had a smattering of
knowledge he could probably fake it very well...many
cardiologists know the heart and its’ disorders very well
, and also what their particular speciality in cardiology
,,,for instance some know electrophysiology very well, and primarily practice that
aspect, doing things like pacers, internal defibrillators,
mapping electrophysiological processes, ablation of
aberrant electrical conduction in the heart, etc. So he
could have faked general cardiology very well, as long as
he didn’t see that many “run of the mill” patients.
After all, post-book learning, it’s all about seeing patients, learning it as you go, going
to seminars, consulting with other physicians etc...
But you gotta fill in the dotted lines, and cross your t’s
and dot your i’s. Then they’ll believe you.(maybe)


18 posted on 12/13/2010 8:25:58 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: KeyLargo
Big deal, lol...Frank Abagnale succesfully impersonated both an airline pilot and a chief resident pediatrician (among any other number of ruses).
19 posted on 12/13/2010 8:26:38 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: boomop1
Joe Biden: I’m Not a Doctor, But I Did Stay at A Holiday Inn Express Last Night

"I would tell members of my family, and I have, I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places now. It’s not that it’s going to Mexico, it’s you’re in a confined aircraft when one person sneezes it goes all the way through the aircraft. That’s me. I would not be, at this point, if they had another way of transportation suggesting they ride the subway. "

20 posted on 12/13/2010 8:30:17 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Joe 6-pack

"Frank Abagnale succesfully impersonated both an airline pilot and a chief resident pediatrician (among any other number of ruses)."

21 posted on 12/13/2010 8:41:38 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Abathar

I can’t believe any company would insure him without a background check.


22 posted on 12/13/2010 9:07:20 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Eat moer DUCK! War Eagle!!!!)
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To: KeyLargo

Let’s not forget Ferdinand Waldo Demara, portrayed by Tony Curtis in the 1960 movie “The Great Imposter”.


23 posted on 12/13/2010 9:29:22 AM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: thulldud
Apparently his acquaintance with medicine was anything but superficial.

There is no evidence to support your statement.

24 posted on 12/13/2010 9:44:39 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: KeyLargo

Shades of Ferdinand W. Demara.(”The Great Imposter”)


25 posted on 12/13/2010 9:50:15 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: battousai
Oh for sure, I was just wondering why some of the other doctors in the article claim to mis his work, as if he actually knew what he was doing.

Makes you wonder about them doesn't it? It's one thing to discuss electrophysiology from a book. It's another to be confronted by a gravely ill patient and decide on the correct course of action. Real cardiologists do six years of residency (3 years internal medicine 3 years cardiology) - not something you can learn from a book.

26 posted on 12/13/2010 9:56:44 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga
Apparently his acquaintance with medicine was anything but superficial.

There is no evidence to support your statement.

You're sure right about that, but it seems that hardly anyone posting on this thread actually read the article.

Clarifying some of the points in the article that contradict a lot of the replies that have been posted:

There is no indication Hamman ever treated a patient

Hamman's formal education consists of only an associate's degree (in general aviation flight technology) and a bachelor of science degree. After only a few years, he was a medical school drop out

As Dr. Stephen Mester, a Florida cardiologist who took one of Hamman's sessions at a cardiologist conference last spring says: "In a sense, he didn't talk about anything medical...I did not find it worthwhile"

What Hamman was doing was using his education and training in aviation simulation and applying it to medical simulations; teaching team work through the use of simulations. As it says in the article, he really wouldn't have needed to be a medical doctor to do what he was doing. Presenting himself as a medical doctor, obtaining appointments, employment positions and research grants using fake credentials, shows that Hamman is a psyche case.

27 posted on 12/13/2010 10:49:31 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: KeyLargo

In this March 14, 2010 file photo, William Hamman watches data on a computer as he supervises doctors performing euthenasia on elderly patients. Pillows are no longer used to help reduce costs.

28 posted on 12/13/2010 11:04:01 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
In this March 14, 2010 file photo, William Hamman watches data on a computer as he supervises doctors performing euthenasia on elderly patients. Pillows are no longer used to help reduce costs.

Why not? The same pillow can be used again and again, and it's a lot cheaper than using drugs.

29 posted on 12/13/2010 1:16:01 PM PST by Moltke ('Tis very strange. - Hamlet)
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To: from occupied ga
Apparently his acquaintance with medicine was anything but superficial.

There is no evidence to support your statement.

How about evidence that you read the article?

30 posted on 12/14/2010 8:48:16 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

...what KeyLargo said...


31 posted on 12/14/2010 4:18:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: thulldud

Just because you can bullsh!t a good game doesn’t mean you can actually play. This guy’s faking it well does NOT equate to meaning that he’s qualified.


32 posted on 12/15/2010 6:23:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


33 posted on 12/15/2010 9:18:47 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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