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Military Says Missile-Like Object Wasn't Missile
CBS News ^ | November 10, 2010 | David Martin

Posted on 11/10/2010 1:34:50 PM PST by libstripper

(CBS) More than a day after a CBS camera caught video of an unidentified projectile leaving a condensation trail off the California coast, the situation remains a mystery, with the Defense Department insisting that it was not a missile.

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But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.

"It’s a solid propellant missile," he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: californiamissile; contrail; missilelaunch; mysterymissile; obama
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To: Keith in Iowa

Thanks. You left nothing to say.


21 posted on 11/10/2010 2:01:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: a fool in paradise
Excellent point!

If it wasn't one of ours, the military was probably caught totally by surprise, and they would never admit it was a foreign missile. The political fallout would be tremendous, and they always fear that the public would panic. Besides, even if they knew a foreign sub was in our waters, what would they do? The might track it, but they wouldn't sink it and a missile launch would probably be the last thing they would expect.

The only recourse for them now is to invent a story that allows "plausible deniability", but they haven't done too well at that either.

22 posted on 11/10/2010 2:12:26 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I saw two of them yesterday, and I live in the midwest.

High speed upper winds caused many weird cloud formations the last few days.

Jet contrails took on these quick spreading, rolling, long plumes instead of the straight and narrow streams we normally see.


23 posted on 11/10/2010 2:13:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: libstripper

“It’s a solid propellant missile,” he told the Times. “You can tell from the efflux [smoke].”

He could tell by the smell?


24 posted on 11/10/2010 2:15:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: libstripper

Norks testing russian tech. They shot back toward NK for ease in tracking.


25 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:41 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
If it was, then they launched another one on Tuesday because I saw another contrail in the same spot in the sky at the same time of day as I did on Monday.

Almost as if that was some kind of scheduled flight path for overseas flights.

: )

26 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: libstripper

Just remember one thing, this failed president NEEDS A CRISIS even if it has to be created AND he is the Commander and Chief of our military.


27 posted on 11/10/2010 2:18:19 PM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: Keith in Iowa

I think you got them all.


29 posted on 11/10/2010 2:28:55 PM PST by mcshot (I believe he was born in Kenya - YouTube "Not Natural Born - Truth Matters")
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To: libstripper

Oh, ok.


30 posted on 11/10/2010 2:31:07 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: libstripper
This whole event is just mind boggling. We have lots of experts that are disagreeing with each other. I never figured it would be this hard to get a definite answer to the question of what this was.

I would hope that the raw video could be zoomed and analyzed to provide the proof one way or the other.
31 posted on 11/10/2010 2:43:10 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: a fool in paradise
Weakness brings violence.

South Korea Drops Its Call for Apology From North

32 posted on 11/10/2010 2:50:22 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: VRWCTexan

Hmm. I wrote the original history of the Trident program back in 1984 (”Trident,” with Douglas Dalgleish) and it sure looked like a D-5 to me.


33 posted on 11/10/2010 3:05:44 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: libstripper

The “missile” videotape was reportedly shot at around 5:00 p.m. on November 8, 2010. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s either a 757 or a 757....
http://i55.tinypic.com/atkck1.jpg


34 posted on 11/10/2010 3:07:41 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: StolarStorm
To me, it does look like a missile. If it were the contrail of an airplane coming toward the camera from the horizon, the lower part of the contrail would be smaller because it is much farther away, and the upper part of the contrail would be bigger because it is closer. From the looks of, the opposite is true.
35 posted on 11/10/2010 3:10:10 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, we were. By a number of the same posters that are pushing the magic contrail theory, in fact.


36 posted on 11/10/2010 3:33:28 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: PUGACHEV

The contrail itself would be wider at the earlier in time position, due to wind dispersal. So the appearance depends very much on the angle at which the object is observed, and the actual vector of the object. Hard to know any of it, although smarter guys than me should be able to come up with a good idea of the flight path given that we know the position of the helicopter and the direction of observation.

To me, it’s a rocket launch, plain as day. No way this wasn’t picked up on radar either. Somehow, everyone knew it was 35 miles off the coast.

It was big, and it’s being hushed up for reasons unknown.


37 posted on 11/10/2010 4:03:26 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon
To me, it’s a rocket launch, plain as day.

Take a look at the screenshots here: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/gallery/2010/11/09/mystery-missile-launch-off-california/#photo-1

To me, the spread of the contrail/plume to its left at it's trailing edge looks like what I'd expect to see a half hour or so back the line on a persistent airplane contrail. It doesn't look like what I'd expect it to look like a couple minutes back on a smoke trail.

38 posted on 11/10/2010 4:35:12 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: libstripper; saganite; All
All you conspiracy theorists can take off your tinfoil hats and stand down, now. Saganite conclusively identified it as INBOUND daily scheduled US Airways Flight 808 (AWE808) from Hawaii. See

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625121/posts

He even posted a photo taken at the same time the next day -- showing the exact same effect.

The fact that the plane's movement is inbound (toward the viewer) heightens the illusion that the object is ascending in the sky.

39 posted on 11/10/2010 8:14:56 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It’s also possible that the US government was conducting a test in violation of an international treaty. By allowing it to be seen, and generating this sort of conspiracy speculation, they deflect attention from the facts. They can appear to be earnestly investigating a “mystery” and let their intel operations apparently take the fall.

“Hiding in plain sight”, as it were.


40 posted on 11/11/2010 5:11:18 AM PST by motor_racer (That which you manifest is before you.)
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