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U.S. Deficit Commission Recommends Changes to Social Security
Fox News ^ | November 10, 2010

Posted on 11/10/2010 10:55:54 AM PST by Sopater

Breaking News: Obama Debt Panel Recommends Cut in Social Security Payments, Eyes End to Mortgage Deduction

At foxnews.com

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; bho44; economy; elections; hopeychangey; liberalfascism; obama; obamavoters; socialsecurity; taxes
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To: Sopater

If true, looks like Obama wants the old folks and middle-class working families to pay for his social welfare state.

Not a winning strategy for 2012.


21 posted on 11/10/2010 11:03:48 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Sopater

Across the Board cut of 10% of all Federal outlays.

Followed by 10% cut of operating commissions and agencies. the massive herd of Federal Acronyms needs to be culled.


22 posted on 11/10/2010 11:04:38 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Sopater

Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme. We can do nothing, and it collapses the country.

Or, we can treat is as a huge machine with many many levers. If we can show everyone that if we simultaneously reef down hard on all the levers, we can change its essence from a Ponzi Scheme to Welfare For Old People Who Will Otherwise Starve, we might have a chance of saving bits of it.

Politically, it will be hard to do anything. I predict 0bama will disavow his panel’s recommendations within 24 hours.


23 posted on 11/10/2010 11:05:08 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: Sopater

“Eyes End to Mortgage Deduction”

Instant tax increase on every homeowner with a mortgage. That should help the crumbling housing industry.


24 posted on 11/10/2010 11:05:54 AM PST by nesnah
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To: Sopater

Counting down to when the Republican takeover of Congress is blamed...


25 posted on 11/10/2010 11:06:05 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
There goes another constituency for the dems...

Not necessarily. My mother things everything that's happening is George Bush's fault. The only reason Obama is cutting SS is because George Bush screwed it up. The only reason the her Medicare premiums are increasing and she didn't get a cost of living increase is because George Bush screwed things up. The national debt is all Bush's fault. Etc.

26 posted on 11/10/2010 11:06:36 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Sopater

Before she passed away my mom was pulling in a whopping $813.00 a month in social security....what’s to cut??


27 posted on 11/10/2010 11:06:44 AM PST by leenie312
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To: Sopater

Folks please. Lets not go off half cocked.

All they are planning to do is raise the retirement age to 150, and lower the thresh-hold to get welfare to anyone with a pulse, that hasn’t turned 65 yet.

Very simple really...

And if you’re an illegal, you also get free health-care and education breaks citizens can’t get.

What’s all the fuss? /s


28 posted on 11/10/2010 11:06:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Sopater

Well, I agree it’s unpopular but don’t we recognize social security must be cut in some way?

If conservatives won’t cut any of this stuff, savings will come from where?


29 posted on 11/10/2010 11:08:04 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Frantzie

30 posted on 11/10/2010 11:08:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Sopater

Here’s my plan.

- Eliminate all earmarks.

- Eliminate the department of energy, education and housing and urban development, and the department of homeland
security

- Eliminate all duplicate programs

- Eliminate estate taxes, capital gains taxes and AMT.

- Raise the age of retirement to 70 and allow people to opt out of SS.

- Decertify all unions and make them illegal under the RICO act.

- Enact a balanced budget amendment

- Stop all foreign aid.


31 posted on 11/10/2010 11:08:32 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Hotlanta Mike
There goes another constituency for the dems...

Yeah, I'm coming up on that age. He's sure lost my vote. Oh, wait. He lost it about 48 or so years ago.

32 posted on 11/10/2010 11:08:38 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: nesnah

IMO, it would utterly destroy it.

Buy stock in bulldozer companies.


33 posted on 11/10/2010 11:08:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Williams

Why don’t we cut welfare?


34 posted on 11/10/2010 11:09:27 AM PST by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>> We have to encourage home ownership, except for those people who can actually make the payments.

LOL! I wonder if that would fit in a tag line.


35 posted on 11/10/2010 11:10:34 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Sopater

Do believe FOX seems to think this is a trial balloon as 14 of the 18 members have to agree with the final recommendations and I would be surprised if they can get the 14. The elimination of interest on housing would amount to a huge tax increase for a lot of folks. Where are the cuts - other than in Medicare? And this needs to be uniform - i.e., no pensions for anyone including government employees until age 68. One time in my life I’m glad to be old.


36 posted on 11/10/2010 11:10:39 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Sopater

37 posted on 11/10/2010 11:10:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Jedidah

There should be statistics somewhere showing the number of disabled Medicare recipients, under the qualifying age of 65.

Also ‘double dippers’ who had both Federal employment and private sector employment.

http://www.governing.com/columns/public-money/FICA-free-lunch-crowd.html

Double-dipping. Employees in these outlier states and localities can still collect Social Security benefits for work they do outside their government service. So firefighters can collect Social Security credits for their side jobs as construction workers, plumbers or electricians. Even without moonlighting, the notorious “early-in-early-out” retirees who pull down full pensions from these systems at the ages of 50 or 55 can readily collect 10 years of Social Security credits in a second career, and double-dip the two systems. Occupations with earlier retirement options are heavily weighted in the FICA-exempt sub-group, so the second-career double-dip scenario is quite common. Typically, their public pensions exceed those of workers paying into Social Security: Because the employer and the employees don’t have to pay FICA taxes, they can pay more into the pension plan. Then the double-dippers can add duplicative Social Security benefits and play the two systems against each other. They get their cake and eat it too.

(there’s more - very interesting and irritating)


38 posted on 11/10/2010 11:11:50 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: Sopater

I actually agree with both of these suggestions. Of course, there’s zero chance either one is going to happen any time soon.


39 posted on 11/10/2010 11:12:03 AM PST by jpl (It's "My Big Fat Deadly Greek Riot", coming soon to a bankrupt socialist state near you.)
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To: mbynack
Okay, time for a new mom, lol!

Mrs. Prince of Space

40 posted on 11/10/2010 11:12:28 AM PST by Prince of Space
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