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Voter reports problem with ballot machine [voted R, machine said D]
Sun Journal ^ | 10/23/10 | P. Christine Smith

Posted on 10/27/2010 6:03:10 AM PDT by Clint Williams

A Craven County voter says he had a near miss at the polls on Thursday when an electronic voting machine completed his straight-party ticket for the opposite of what he intended.

Sam Laughinghouse of New Bern said he pushed the button to vote Republican in all races, but the voting machine screen displayed a ballot with all Democrats checked. He cleared the screen and tried again with the same result, he said. Then he asked for and received help from election staff.

“They pushed it twice and the same thing happened,” Laughinghouse said. “That was four times in a row. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at newbernsj.com ...


TOPICS: US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; nc2010
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To: popdonnelly

You bet they do. It’s an axiom.


21 posted on 10/27/2010 6:31:52 AM PDT by Wiser now (Happiness is not an absence of problems, but the ability to deal with them.)
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To: November 2010

Elections are run by the state.


22 posted on 10/27/2010 6:32:25 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Thank You Rush

I’m sure the “straight party” button was a union thing - It used to be a lever on the mechanical machines. I’ve never used it as it seems that if you a voting for someone, you should at least READ their name.


23 posted on 10/27/2010 6:32:30 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Clint Williams

“That was four times in a row. ...

...that means the rats got 4 votes from this one guy. I’m reading about “issues” with voting machines all over the place and none are reporting “I pushed the D and got all R’s”!!


24 posted on 10/27/2010 6:33:15 AM PDT by albie
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To: MrB

I believe so. One way for obIWONa to call for martial law.....


25 posted on 10/27/2010 6:33:33 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: albie

Nope, the votes are not recorded until they “commit” their ballot to the card.


26 posted on 10/27/2010 6:36:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: scooby321

Elections are run by the state.
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Citizens of the States are guaranteed a “Republican form of government” in the Constitution.

Article IV; Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

17th Amendment

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

Feds can step in under color of law and fight it out after in court. “Elected by the people” is the Constitutional requirement.


27 posted on 10/27/2010 6:39:57 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: November 2010

” Feds can step in under color of law and fight it out after in court. “

Better to resolve these things on a local or state level - remember that if the Feds get involved, it falls under the purview of Eric Holder - of “Civil Rights for me and mine, but none for you” fame.....


28 posted on 10/27/2010 6:44:01 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Red Badger

Here we fill out paper ballots by filling in the little ovals. Then they are slipped into a machine that reads our choices. We have no way of knowing how the reader reads, however.


29 posted on 10/27/2010 6:44:40 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Clint Williams
Just a novice guess but it looks like they have found a way to finagle the code in the machines. we are seeing reports of this across the country so it must be countrywide.

Now, what do we do? The complete integrity of our elections has been destroyed.

30 posted on 10/27/2010 6:46:46 AM PDT by riri
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To: Uncle Ike

Only the sheriff there is a Republican. All other levels are Dem. Facts could force the Dems to act, but otherwise this could get swept under the rug.


31 posted on 10/27/2010 6:50:03 AM PDT by November 2010
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32 posted on 10/27/2010 6:57:32 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: riri

” Now, what do we do? The complete integrity of our elections has been destroyed. “

That is the question, isn’t it??

Tin-foil moment —

It’s been remarked upon, several times, about how blatantly these frauds and abuses are being committed... What if it’s the Dem scorched-earth plan to throw this whole election to the (liberal) courts, where, due to its obvious lack of integrity, it could be thrown out, and new elections ordered...

That would leave the current Dem-dominated congress in place for an indefinite future....

Tinfoil, right??


33 posted on 10/27/2010 6:59:51 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: MrB

Must be using the same guys that fix the slot machines in Vegas.


34 posted on 10/27/2010 7:03:42 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (YEAH, I ALREADY VOTED TO CLEAN THE SEWER!!!)
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To: Uncle Ike
I don't even need to go there. I know that they know they can steal this election in broad daylight. It can be documented, confirmed and they know they will still get away with it. The mainstream media will ignore it.

OK, maybe this for tinfoil hat stuff. They WANT violence fro our side. Perhaps they think it is win/win. Either they steal is out right through fraud and the cowardice of the Republican party, the apathy of joe six pack and the abject corruption of their side and get away with it or they finally goad a few tea partiers into violence. Still giving them the election and then the excuse they need to start cracking down on dissent.

I am not a coder but I can't imagine this would be a hard thing to sneak into the code using conditional programming. A simple if/then/else statement. Any coders out there agree?

Conversely, I'd imagine it would be extremely easy to find for someone looking for it to prove fraud.

35 posted on 10/27/2010 7:17:48 AM PDT by riri
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To: Thank You Rush

Voting “straight party ticket” is an option in many states. You make one vote and it fills in the vote for all candidates on that party’s slate.

Think that’s bad? The State of Louisiana used to put symbols next to voter names to show party endorsement. For the Democrat party machine, that symbol was a rooster. Then they would go into cajun areas, lead people to the polls, hand them money and tell them “tapez le coque” (hit the cock), reducing the right to vote into a game of whack-a-mole.

Many years ago during the segregation battles, the state Democrat leaders managed to get Strom Thurmond’s name (of the “States Rights Party”) to appear with the rooster symbol instead of the nationally-approved Democrat running for president. Guess which one state Thurmond carried that year in his race for the presidency?


36 posted on 10/27/2010 7:28:45 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Clint Williams

I believe that “electronic” voting machines should be outlawed.

They are all-too-easily “hackable” — and as we are seeing in Nevada (where the “techs” who service and setup the electronic voting machines belong to the SEIU), those who maintain these systems are themselves neither neutral nor beyond reproach.

Particularly in the case of all-electronic systems, simply being an “election observer” who stands around while others program/setup the systems can be of little value, for the observers may have no idea just what the techs are actually doing, or what may have been done in advance before the systems were delivered.

Wasn’t it Stalin himself who said [in effect] that it didn’t matter how people voted, but rather who _counted_ the votes?

Let’s turn that around a bit: with the newfangled computerized voting machines, it doesn’t matter how people vote — what REALLY matters is how the machines are programmed to _record_ those votes.

And never before has it been so easy to tamper with how votes are cast and recorded.

Fully computerized voting systems are an election-stealer’s DREAM. Once the vote is “cast” there is nothing written, no “solid evidence”. All that exists is a series of bits and bytes that no one can “see”, and that after-the-fact evaluators will have little else to judge by.

Old-time mechanical voting machines were more cumbersome, but much harder to tamper with.

The oldest-fashioned paper ballots, as outdated as they might appear, provide an actual “paper trail”, hanging chads notwithstanding. You might need a big magnifying glass with which to examine them, but at least there exists SOMEthing that cam be physically “examined”.

With electronic/computerized systems there is NOTHING that exists after-the-fact except an easily-manipulated digital record. And there is absolutely NO WAY to ascertain how that “digital vote” came to exist for what it is — that is to say, that that vote truly represents “what the voter intended to record”. The only choice is to accept it for what it is.

Here in my state, we used to have old-style “mechanical” voting machines. They’ve been replaced by a “combination” paper ballot/electronic recorder system. The voter is given a large paper ballot and take it to a booth. In the booth, the voter uses a marker to blacken out his/her choices. After that, the completed ballot is taken to a machine that sucks in the paper, scans and reads the voter’s markings, records them, and retains the paper ballot.

At first I didn’t like the idea, but after some thought, I now feel this is perhaps the best compromise to update from an older all-mechanical system to something more modern that retains “integrity” against tampering. Yes, the ballot is still being scanned and tallied electronically, but the physical ballots STILL EXIST as a backup.

With the coming of electronic voting, stealing elections has moved into the twenty-first century.

One of the most important things Republican state legislatures could do to “future proof” the integrity of the election process is to ban “all-electronic” voting in favor of systems that produce some kind of physical (as well as digital data) record.

Otherwise Stalin will have been prescient in a way he never could have imagined.


37 posted on 10/27/2010 8:20:17 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Clint Williams; ClearCase_guy; FlingWingFlyer; Red Badger; COBOL2Java; Doofer; Thank You Rush; ...
If Dems want election trouble they are going to get it in spades. We The People are watching.

All voter fraud and intimidation must be reported and the names of those involved exposed to light including Dem perps.

ACTION Document everything. Call your state's Secretary of State for info on reporting voter fraud and intimidation---this official is usually the one that oversees vote fraud.

Make a paper trail: For every call: Time connected, who answered, message relayed, reply received, hang-up time.

Tell the person politiely that you are doing so.

And if there is no action, you are sending the document to the DOJ, FBI, FEC, and your lawyer, reporting obstruction of justice and voter fraud.

38 posted on 10/27/2010 8:28:47 AM PDT by Liz (Nov 2 will be one more stitch in Obama's political shroud.)
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To: Liz; Clint Williams; ClearCase_guy; FlingWingFlyer; Red Badger; COBOL2Java; Doofer

” ACTION Document everything. Call your state’s Secretary of State for info on reporting voter fraud and intimidation-—this official is usually the one that oversees vote fraud.

Make a paper trail: For every call: Time connected, who answered, message relayed, reply received, hang-up time.

Tell the person politiely that you are doing so.

And if there is no action, you are sending the document to the DOJ, FBI, FEC, and your lawyer, reporting obstruction of justice and voter fraud. “

I have been warning about overconfidence, and voter fraud for months. How are you going to stop SEIU from taking the machines, and putting Reid’s name in it when nobody is around?


39 posted on 10/27/2010 9:31:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: MrB

” Are they DARING us to start shooting? “

It DO look like it.


40 posted on 10/27/2010 9:47:19 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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