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Government is enforcement you into this Agenda,21,Sustainable, Development Make Mine Freedom (1948) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY&feature=player_embedded#!
1 posted on 08/20/2010 8:00:44 AM PDT by goldendays
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Isn't Cleveland one of those labor-union, socialist, hell-hole utopias like Detroit that tax-and-spent itself into a bombed-out shell?

I guess they want to drive any remaining productive citizens out, once and for all.

2 posted on 08/20/2010 8:04:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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I
Would
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And
Get
Away
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That
Nanny
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Bull$hi+
3 posted on 08/20/2010 8:04:48 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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Can they fine you if the chip in your trash can gets, uh, damaged?
4 posted on 08/20/2010 8:07:54 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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I'll bet there will be a great increase in the number of micro-chipped carts rolled to the curb with 1 or 2 cans in them. And I'll bet even more that the nannies who run this project in Cleveland will tout it as evidence of its roaring success.

I say this not as a guy who wants to pooh-pooh the benefits of recycling (I do it, I think everyone should), but as one who wants to pooh-pooh the benefits of big nanny government.

6 posted on 08/20/2010 8:11:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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The country is falling apart thanks to a bunch of marxists, and they are fining people for not sorting their garbage!


12 posted on 08/20/2010 8:16:55 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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I am sure there is a money trail between some politician and the company who provides the equipment.


14 posted on 08/20/2010 8:24:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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...I’ve got my doubts on whether this will work...snart chip or not...some folks just won’t make the effort...a while back Washington DC made a big appeal to residents to recycle...they figured the city could make millions a year by salvaging metals/plastic/cardboard...the better off neighborhoods complied...the bad neighborhoods were indifferent.


16 posted on 08/20/2010 8:27:13 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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This article is complete horse$hit.

1) The “chipping” is just an RFID tag that allows the trash-truck/recycle-trucks’s computer to log a particular can to a particular issued-to address.

2) There is no way no how that any “smart-bin” can identify 10% recyclable material in a given bin. Even if each piece of recyclable trash had an RFID identifier in it, you still would need to know the weight of each empty bottle/can to calculate that.

Thus, the LIKELY method they use (deduced in spite of the idiotic article) is that the city is tracking the weight of your particular trash bin and your particular recycle bin, and penalizing you if you don’t have say 10lbs of recycled material for every 100lbs of trash-trash in the other bin.

THAT is possible.

But also stupid.

A) wedge a brick or path paver in your recycle bin to make sure it’s always above the 10% limit.
B) Be sure to run the hose on the bin after you put the newspaper in it. “A pint is a pound the world around!”
C) Put on some “Ramones” and ‘Beat your bin with a baseball bat.’ (Be sure to have multiple hits from ‘kids’ who happened to whack the RFID chip...)


17 posted on 08/20/2010 8:27:27 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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"High-tech carts will tell on Cleveland residents who don't recycle they face $100 fine"

Big Brother is watching!

19 posted on 08/20/2010 8:33:06 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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20 posted on 08/20/2010 8:36:07 AM PDT by goldendays (that)
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I don’t understand. How does a chip know what is being put in the trash can?

Also a “nice” touch about the property owner getting the citation... Bet the landlord going after his “not-green-enough” tenants is going to be fun.


21 posted on 08/20/2010 8:36:48 AM PDT by BWDog
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In Philly, they have the equivalent of recylcing police. I’ve talked to residents, these green meter maids actually check your trashcans and have a handheld device that they can generate citations with. This is their idea of “Green jobs”, I suppose.


24 posted on 08/20/2010 8:40:30 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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We have the homeless and underprivileged people getting all my cans and bottles before the truck gets there...
29 posted on 08/20/2010 8:43:01 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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I cant wait for big brother to try this out here.. lol

I can assure you that overnight, the desert would be filled with trash.

Its time to start resisting this kind of garbage. I am all for recycling if its voluntary, but once they FORCE me to do it.. game on. I am not going to have my garbage monitored, enough is enough.


30 posted on 08/20/2010 8:44:48 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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That’s awesome, you can load your neighbor’s trashcan with beer cans and newspapers and get them fined.


31 posted on 08/20/2010 8:46:08 AM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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We're trying to make sure Cleveland stays clean

You failed.

43 posted on 08/20/2010 8:56:04 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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My trash collector will accept paper, cardboard, cans, and recyclable plastic types 1 and type 2. Anything above 2 is not supposed to be recycled. Go figure.


44 posted on 08/20/2010 8:56:15 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Glad I live in the middle of no where.


46 posted on 08/20/2010 9:01:22 AM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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This crap will only inspire people to find alternative ways to get rid of trash.


47 posted on 08/20/2010 9:04:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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and down the drain we continue to go....


48 posted on 08/20/2010 9:17:29 AM PDT by gibsosa
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