Posted on 07/23/2010 9:43:38 AM PDT by Nachum
A gay priest sex scandal has rocked the Catholic Church in Italy today after a weekly news magazine released details of a shock investigation it had carried out.
Using hidden cameras, a journalist from Panorama magazine - owned by Italian Prime Minister and media baron Silvio Berlusconi - filmed three priests as they attended gay nightspots and had casual sex.
Today there was no immediate comment from the Italian Bishops Conference and the Vatican - which has been rocked by a series of sex scandals involving paedophile priests since the start of the year.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Good points.
In his 20’s seems a bit young for a permanent deacon. Usually the church seeks more mature men. Furthermore, if he is a deacon, permanent or otherwise, he is also bound by celibacy and should not have a girlfriend. The rule for the deaconate is that married men can be ordained but once ordained they cannot marry. This is the same rule for priests for Eastern Rite Catholics and for the Orthodox churches.
ROTFLOL.
Maybe they allow Him a Reader’s Digest and some National Geographics.
lol. That’s Presbyterian as well as Baptist. Don’t believe the lies Rome tells about Protestants. 8~)
Bread gets stale; old stale bread gets moldy.
You keep believing that and the evil will continue.
I have held reserved sacrament for months and it didn’t even get stale. I kept it in a usually-sealed container, but it was opened every now and again. Still, after a few months, having checked it for mold and staleness, I consumed it, just to be sure. It’s a good idea not to keep the sacrament for much more than a month or two.
Thanks for your eyewitness testimony.
We may be moving back to a frontier church, where pastors needed to be circuit riders. It would be worth it, if we can weed out the bad apples.
I certainly hope — and know -— that a person can deal privately with homosexual temptations, resist them, and lead a holy life. One such man was Gerard Manley Hopkins, a 19th century writer/priest of great poetic power and also of great holiness. I think the late Fr. Henry Nouwen was a also a man who experienced this type of temptation, but lived chastely.
But it would be wrong, I think, for a seminary director to retain a man in the seminary if he found that the seminarian had strong homosexual tendencies. A young seminaran (like a young male miltiary recruit) is always surrounded by attractive young men. It is not good, spiritually, to have to be exposed to that kind of temptation. I don’t think they belong in the priesthood or in the miltiary.
Where they do belong, is a problem. A significant problem, I think, for a Catholic man with a homosexual tendency who is struggling to live chastely.
Your thoughts?
Homosexual sex with anyone of any age, by anyone of any age, is wrong.
What I was unlear about, is how a married priesthood would address the problem of covert (but promiscuous) homosexuals To my mind the only way is to not ordain them in the first place (but they lie about it, so how you identify them in a timely manner I do not know.)
Adept as some of these men are at constant deception and leading double lives, as illustrated in the article, it seems even ordaining married men would not eliminate this type of man seeking the priesthood.
I’m thinking of the former governor of New Jersey, Jim McGreevey, a married man with children. I think the gay Episcopanian bishop of New Hampshire, Gene Robinson, was also married and had children.
Albion: we’re already there. Small but persistent, we meet in houses, senior centers, wherever we can rent room.
There are a lot of homosexuals in the media pushing such news items and yet journalists and editors are free to marry.
It is about the lavender mafia infiltrating.
But it’s skin from Jesus, so how can it be “bread?”
This, my friend, is incorrect. The Church teaches that sexual union has two meanings, procreative and unitive. There is a whole lot of love, joy and pleasure in that "unitive" catgory. This goes back to Church teaching in every century. In fact, it goes back to Genesis.
If more (a lot more) priests were married, child sex abuse among priests would virutally disappear. A man with his own children would be a lot less likely to look the other way when a fellow priest is molesting kids. Sad but true, I suspect.
It’s not a one way or the other thing, Argus. The fags in the box aren’t caused because they weren’t getting enough heterosex. It’s because they saw it as an opportunity to be around lots of children and hide who they really were. I don’t NECESSARILY oppose the idea of married priests - for one thing, if it’s ok for converts and other rites, why is it not for the Latin rite? But there are problems with married clergy in the protsie ranks that make me wonder if it’s such a good idea. First, Preacher Kids often turn out screwed up because Dad (or mom) always gets all the attention. And second, I’m not sure either the parishioners or the family get a square deal when mom or dad, or heaven forbid both are wearing the collar.
This, my friend, is incorrect.
I stand corrected!
Is the only prohibition (for a married man and woman-to each other) that there be no birth control?
It’s a legitimate fear, Bucky. Where do you suppose that money is going to come from? It’s not that they’re stingy, but they’re having enough trouble taking care of the retired religious that they have already. It’s a concern.
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