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To: SorosOwnsObama
Under Saddam the Christian minority was protected and even allowed to participate in government.

Ridiculous.

First of all, no one was allowed to participate in government - it was a totalitarian regime.

The one nominal Christian in Saddam's regime was the Muslim-named traitor Tariq Aziz, who changed his name from Michael Yuhannan so he would not appear to come from a Christian family.

Christians in Iraq were tolerated because they allowed the state monopoly on the sale of alcohol to be conducted through them, so that the Muslim Saddam would not be seen to be directly selling alcohol.

Then we installed the current regime.

There is no "regime" - there is an elected multi-party government.

Pimp for dictators and spit on the accomplishments of America's war dead on some other forum.

14 posted on 07/19/2010 10:51:12 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Nobody is “pimping for dictators.” Saddam was a dictator, but he wasn’t an Islamist any more than it suited him. He favored his own type of Islam, and he liked to dress up and pretend he was a new Saladin (big Muzzie hero) but Christians were generally left alone. Since they were generally the most educated, most commercially adept, etc. he used many of them in his regime.

That is not to defend him. He obviously had his own reasons for doing this and they weren’t charitable. However, the big problem is that we let the post-Saddam Muslims enshrine sharia in the Iraqi constitution - we could have and should have prevented that.

Bush was terrified of offending the Muslims. I think he intended originally to go for the two somewhat secular states, Iraq and Syria, then take out Iran, but of course the left’s attacks on him over Iraq made that impossible. What he should have done, IMHO, was wipe Saudi Arabia off the map, taking Mecca with it, and the whole problem would have been solved. But that’s never going to happen (even aside from the fact that we have a Muslim in the White House at the moment).


15 posted on 07/19/2010 2:45:33 PM PDT by livius
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To: wideawake

Nobody is downplaying the sacrifices of our soldiers in Iraq. However, there is an irony that if we try to install “democratic” governments in the Middle East we may actually wind up with creating systems that will be far more anti-Jewish, anti-Christian and anti-infidel (The West). Perhaps in a few generations, when the middle class has expanded and there is more connection to the world, nations like Syria and Libya will evolve into something like Turkey. I hope that Iraq will develop a Turkish model as well. The problem is, if the majority of people in a country see life from the eyes of a fundamentalist Muslim then don’t expect something looking like Jeffersonian democracy to develop. I thought Saddam was brutal, but he was trying to make Iraq into a secular state, which might have served our interests better had we tried to co-opt him rather than use him to punish Iran in the 1980s.
Oh, and if the new government of Iraq is so wonderful, why are Christian Iraqi people trying their best to leave?


18 posted on 07/19/2010 3:08:46 PM PDT by SorosOwnsObama
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