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Tavis Smiley on PBS: Many More Examples Of Christians Killing Americans Than Muslims
Mediaite ^ | 05/28/2010 | Colby Hall

Posted on 05/28/2010 8:48:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Tavis Smiley: Many More Examples Of Christians Killing Americans Than Muslims

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by Colby Hall | 7:39 am, May 28th, 2010
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Earlier this week Ayaan Hirsi Ali was on Tavis Smiley’s PBS show to discuss her new book, Nomad: From Islam To America, A Personal Journey Through The Clash Of Civilizations. In a back and forth about Islamic extremists, Hirsi Ali mentioned how some Muslims believe that “killing other people is a great thing to do,” to which Smiley shot back that Christians are more violent, saying “Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is.”

The full quote from Smiley (transcript from Breitbart.tv):

“Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is – I could do this all day long. There are so many more examples of Christians – and I happen to be a Christian. That’s back to this notion of your idealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many more examples, Ayaan, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of Muslims who have done that inside this country, where you live and work.”

For some context and background on Smiley’s guest, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Somalia-born writer and filmmaker who was raised a strict Muslim. After surviving civil war, she earned a political science degree and became an outspoken critic of Islamist oppression. Hirsi Ali is now a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and has written several books, including The Caged Virgin, Infidel and Nomad.

Certainly there has been more violence by Christians in the United States because it is largely a Christian nation. But Smiley appears to be comparing apples to oranges. The fundamental jihad that’s lead to the recent car bomb attempt in Times Square appears to have been inspired by drone attacks in Pakistan. Post Office shootings are a tragedy of another color entirely.

To be fair, the conversation was very interesting, and went far deeper than the section excerpted below (the full segment can be viewed on the Tavis Smiley website.)

(h/t townhall.com)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ayaanhirsiali; dhimmitude; islam; tavissmiley; terrorism
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To: SeekAndFind

WHAT IS JIHAD?

What is Jihad: The Arabic word Jihad is derived from the root word Jahada (struggle). Jihad has come to mean an offensive war to be waged by Muslims against all non-Muslims to convert them to Islam on the pain of death. Jihad is enjoined on all Muslims by the Quran.

Tabari IX:69 “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.”

This is the history of the Islamic Jihad from a neutral and factual viewpoint.
http://www.historyofjihad.org/mohammed.html

The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)

The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)

The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians - modern Sudanese (650)

The Jihad against pagan Berbers - North Africans (650 to 700)

The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)

The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)

The Jihad against Franks - modern French (720 to 732)

The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)

The Jihad against Chinese (751)

The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)

The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)

The Crusade against Jihad (1096 – 1291 ongoing)

The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)

The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)

The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)

The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)

The Jihad against Rumania (1350 to 1699)

The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)

The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)

The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)

The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)

The Jihad against Albania (1332 - 1853)

The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)

The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)

The Jihad against Austrians (1683)

Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)

The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)

The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)

The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Germans (1945 onwards)

The Jihad against the Indians (1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)

The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)

The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)

The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)

The Global Jihad today (2001 – ongoing)

The War on Terror against Jihad today (2001–


21 posted on 05/28/2010 9:13:45 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: SeekAndFind

Little lnown fact: Klebold and Harris were shouting “Glory to Jesus Christ in the highest” at Columbine. Bet you didn’t know.


22 posted on 05/28/2010 9:15:36 AM PDT by denydenydeny (The welfare state turns us all into zoo animals, mouths open, waiting for the next feeding.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, if Charles Manson was wearing Levis when he went on a killing spree, it's an indictment of everyone wearing Levis, eh?

How does a human being reach adulthood with a skull stuffed full of *that much* stupid?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

23 posted on 05/28/2010 9:17:18 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Smiley is a racist moron.


24 posted on 05/28/2010 9:20:59 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Jo Nuvark
The Arabic word Jihad is derived from the root word Jahada (struggle). Jihad has come to mean an offensive war to be waged by Muslims against all non-Muslims to convert them to Islam on the pain of death. Jihad is enjoined on all Muslims by the Quran.

If you talk to many other Muslims (the non-terrorist type), they would tell you that Jihad has another more general meaning --- THE STRUGGLE AGAINST EVIL, THE STRUGGLE TO CONQUER EVIL PERSONALLY AND TO BETTER ONE's CHARACTER MORALLY.

Some who know the Christian New Testament will even equate this idea to St. Paul's using the Armor of God metaphor in his letter to the Ephesian church ( Chapter 6 ).

At least that's what my Muslim colleagues tell me.
25 posted on 05/28/2010 9:28:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Smile says : There are so many more examples of Christians – and I happen to be a Christian

I would really like to further question him regarding his definition of what makes a Christian.

Jesus said : ""Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21).

So Mr. Smiley, given that the 10 Commandments tell us not to murder and Jesus came to fulfill the law perfectly and tells His followers to do the same, do you consider people who call themselves Christians who DO murder others, real Christians in the sense that Jesus wants it to mean ? Or in your book, anyone who simply uses that label qualifies as a Christian?
26 posted on 05/28/2010 9:33:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Tavis Smiley on PBS

Tavis Smiley on PBS is a proven liar.


27 posted on 05/28/2010 10:40:24 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can see the relationship Jihad might have with
the Armor of God... except that Christians don’t
murder a person if they refuse to convert.

The inquisition was political jihad perpetrated
by evil people who were certainly NOT Christian.


28 posted on 05/28/2010 10:41:10 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

When Christians use the battle or war metaphor ( as in St. Paul’s Armour of God), they do not refer to actual physical combat where people are really killed.

They’re talking about spiritual struggle (a war between good and evil). The struggle or battle to be perfected morally, to be conformed to the character of Jesus Christ.

That’s what St. Paul meant when he said : “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” ( Ephesians 6:12)

Somehow, I don’t think that’s what the meaning of Jihad is about as espoused by Muhammad and the Koran.


29 posted on 05/28/2010 10:58:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He is employed by PBS which means we pay him.

Hey tavis, your fired.

And get a real name.


30 posted on 05/28/2010 11:03:59 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Texas resident
Hey tavis, your fired.

Sigh... if only it were that simple.
31 posted on 05/28/2010 11:04:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

AGREE 100%...!


32 posted on 05/28/2010 11:23:55 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: ZULU

They want to beleive Muslims cause they hate Christians.


33 posted on 05/28/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind

You rand the bell Smiley - cite the dates and locations. Oh you can’t.. then SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!


34 posted on 05/28/2010 3:49:52 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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