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To: BenKenobi; brytlea; SeekAndFind; TexasFreeper2009
BenKenobi: "This is bunk science."

Sounds to me like real serious science going on -- human and Neandertal DNA analysis is about as high-tech as anyone can get -- but those statistics they throw out seem, well, questionable.

Here is a previous report:

"The results from the new studies confirm the Neanderthal's humanity, and show that their genomes and ours are more than 99.5 percent identical, differing by only about 3 million bases.

"This is a drop in the bucket if you consider that the human genome is 3 billion bases," said Edward Rubin of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who led one of the research teams.

"For comparison, the genomes of chimpanzees, our closest living relatives, differ from humans by about 30 million to 50 million base pairs."

Think about those numbers:
3 million different base pairs out of 3 billion total is one-tenth of one percent, which would make human & Neanderthal DNA 99.9% the same.
But they report it as "99.5%".
What is that, a rounding error?

Also note that humans and chimps differ by 30 million to 50 million base pairs. Well, that would be 1% to 1.7%.
But the usual statistics say human & chimp DNA is only 95% the same.

No doubt it all depends on exactly how you count these things.

Here's my point: if human and Neanderthal DNA is 99.9% identical -- only 3 million out of 3 billion base pair differences -- then how can anyone say that one or two or four percent of human DNA comes from Neanderthals?

I'd say it doesn't all add up, and someone probably needs to go back and refigure it.

16 posted on 05/23/2010 6:52:17 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
What I don't get it how can every race but blacks have between 1% and 4% neanderthal DNA... and yet I have heard my entire life that race is a cultural construct and that there is no difference between the races on a DNA level.

Which is it?

Are blacks only 96% the same as other races? I am confused.

Here is another thing, I have heard my entire life that Chimps and humans share 95-96% of their DNA... how can humans differ from chimps by only 4% ... while all races can differ from blacks by up to 4%?

Something is wrong with someones numbers.

17 posted on 05/23/2010 9:50:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: BroJoeK

How does this address my point?

Total variation!= average variation. If the average neanderthal is 4 percent different, and the total variation is the same, this implies there are significant differences between the two.


18 posted on 05/23/2010 4:06:11 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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