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To: Plutarch; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; A_Tradition_Continues; ...
Thanks Pantera. The author makes a couple of sweeping statements I find less than adequate as explanations or "action" plans. Plutarch's post #3 eloquently drives home one of them. Limiting the federales access to funds via OUR tax dollars takes a little more planning than just saying it needs to be done. But I agree something should be done to slim down an overweight feral government, I just don't know what that something is.

The author also states the passage of socialized medicine is the first time the federales have stepped over the line in a major way. I think most of us here would disagree with that statement, the feral government has been dragging our Constitution through the mud since at least the Civil War. Truth be known, statists began nibbling around the edges before the ink was dry.

Still in all it's maybe a starting point, so -- ~ping~

13 posted on 03/21/2010 10:32:32 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

One thing we should all keep in mind and remind everyone.

Recently, McCain-Feingold was thrown out by the Supreme Court. This needs to be our template.

Hopefully VA’s AG Ken Cuccinelli has a the fast track method he suggested to get the case fast tracked.

Some idiot lib I was talking to the other day was talking about how this law will screw evil insurance companies.

My impression of insurance companies is they are quiet and slow but once they are provoked - they are like the hounds from hell. You do not want to piss them off.

They also plan ahead. I am hoping the legal research has already been dones to get a case fast tracked to SCOTUS.


15 posted on 03/21/2010 10:55:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: ForGod'sSake

John Adams, Daniel Webster, John Marshall, Joseph Story... All of them were disciples of Alexander Hamilton and his “national supreme monarchical” plan of centralized government. You might say Hamilton was a Marxist in training. Hamilton’s ideas were soundly defeated at the constitutional convention of 1789. Best read on it is John Taylor’s ‘New Views of the Constitution of the United States’ (1823)... Or you may read the journal of the minutes of the convention of 1789 (Library of Congress)

The General Welfare clause has been so tortured from its intent as to be unrecognizable... Same with the commerce clause. Regulation of commerce, as understood by those who designed it, meant to keep “regular” as in to make certain that the individual states did not prohibit commerce among the several through imposition of tariffs, etc. Providing for the General Welfare meant to provide for the common defense of the several states, to build roads, and to maintain the same standard of taxation across the several states... It had absolutely NOTHING to do with providing for the individual, or even a group of individuals; but only to look after those things that were a matter of public necessity for the federal government, so to ensure the “general welfare” of the INDIVIDUAL STATES!

Chief Justice John Marshall (judicial review) and Chief Justice Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States) saw to it that the government gained the power to determine and establish its own limits, which is blatantly contrary to the intent of federalism and the plan of the Constitution. Their legal theories placed the Constitution in subservience to the federal government, rather than the Constitution acting as a check upon federal powers. The perversions and generational lies of Marshall, and later Story (his apprentice) have manipulated jurisprudence in favor of centralized control since the early 1800’s. Abraham Lincoln’s tyranny direct resulted from the 60 years of distortion and subtle subversion of the U.S. Constitution affected by the Supreme Court under both Chief Justices. No single man understood this more clearly than Senator John C. Calhoun of South Carolina.

Far from the Southern States being “rebels,” it was Lincoln and his Northern Army of butchers that were the traitors against the republic. The popular history fed to American children about the “great emancipator” is pure nonsense. He was an absolute tyrant forging a chain of unscrupulous acts of violence against the Constitution, and doing so by way of Alexander Hamilton’s notorious vision.

We are where we are today because of a long history of usurpation of power and instigation of intrigue that had its roots in the monarchical ideas of Hamilton, Adams, Webster, Marshall and Story... reaching its violent design in 1864... and finding another champion in 2008. It is a bitter irony that Barak Hussein Obama should be the heir of Lincoln’s infamous war on the Constitution.


22 posted on 03/22/2010 3:30:35 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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