BREAKING NEWS House Dems will not "deem" Senate health bill passed

WAPO ^ | 3-20-10

[sonic109]

Thats right because it’s only part 1 of the plan . Part 2 is immigration. He ‘ll pull the same crap and pass it . Now they have clients instead of citizens. Cap and Trad ,part 4 , Fairness Doctrine part 5 ..end of game..
Extreme reaction and civil unrest is in order...Yea or nay ?

[bboop]

Maybe they told them the best way to remove tar and feathers without bothering the botox.

[keats5]

They just started the “deem” talk so that we quit being outraged over the reconciliation procedure. No one’s talking about that anymore.

[Lmo56]

YOu are right, if they vote directly on the Senate bill, there must be recording of the yeas and nays. Pelosi has no choice. Boehner won’t have to force the issue. Of course he would have his members rise to demand one if Pelosi tried to pass it by voice, but she won’t. What makes you think for a second Boehner would sit by and let it pass UNRECORDED? It would be different if the Senate bill was deemed as passed within a changes bill. Then, Boehner wouldn’t be able to stop that because the Senate bill wasn’t being directly voted on, which means it wasn’t the bill actually under consideration, therefore, no chance to stand and demand a recorded vote.

This according to House Republican Legal Staff and Mark Levin.

If "deemed" passed - then it would be subject to a more than plausible constitutional challenge under Article I, Section 7 and the Supreme Court opinion in Clinton v. City of New York ...

[txrangerette]

If “no abortion pay” language is in a reconciliation bill, that makes it subject to a point of order challenge in the Senate.

Because reconciliation is not equipped to handle such policy issues, but rather budget issues. The Republicans not only would not vote for a reconciliation bill, period, under any circumstances, but they will raise points of order to force items to be stripped out of the bill that are not reconciliation items.

In addition, the House pro-aborts are adament that such language not be in the House changes bill.

[LZ_Bayonet]

"...reconciliation is not equipped to handle such policy issues, but rather budget issues..."

Thank you. My understanding of that at least one element of the Health Care bill is that women may option for $1 per month abortion coverage and that the "real cost" is then subsidized by the Federal government. Please let us know of any information you have on this AND if such a situation would then be considered a "budget" issue.