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Balance the Federal Budget Online
Mightyware ^ | 2/28/2010 | Todd Bandrowsky

Posted on 02/27/2010 10:09:34 PM PST by tjbandrowsky

What's often lost in the federal budget debate is that the amount of money consumed by the government also indicates the amount of time a citizen must devote his or her life to satisfy the government's want of money.

To help illustrate this point, I've posted an online application (no registration required), that lets you balance the federal budget. You can either cut items, or, simply do nothing and implicitly choose to work more hours a year to pay for it. It has all the line items to a fairly good level of detail, down to Pentagon details, entitlements distributions by age bracket (in the case of SSI), and estimated disease type (in the case of disability).

Check it out at:

http://www.mightyware.com/federalbudget.bhs


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhobudget; budget

1 posted on 02/27/2010 10:09:34 PM PST by tjbandrowsky
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Very cool!

I starved orphans and seniors and the budget was balanced in no time.
2 posted on 02/27/2010 10:39:07 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("We can't control nature" - Barack Obama, Feb 27, 2010)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

What???????? Why didn’t you start with the Czars, Congress, and the newly formed health council?


3 posted on 02/27/2010 10:41:44 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

A lot of Congress is made up of Seniors, so if I starve them all, it kills two birds with one stone.


4 posted on 02/27/2010 10:45:55 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("We can't control nature" - Barack Obama, Feb 27, 2010)
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To: tjbandrowsky

Te government pays farmers to not grow crops. What part of agriculture would that fall into?


5 posted on 02/27/2010 10:49:30 PM PST by Netizen
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To: tjbandrowsky

Interesting... Cutting TARP results in an INCREASE in the budget. How does that work?

Healthcare fraud and abuse control is listed twice with two different amounts.

Same with two operation of recreational resources different values, and other fields.

And there’s no credit for reducing regulation, stimulating total GDP.


6 posted on 02/27/2010 11:26:40 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Yeh, but theres younger dudes and dudettes and I’d really like to see the Czars go first. After all some of the seniors are conservatives.


7 posted on 02/27/2010 11:31:05 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tjbandrowsky

Is there a way to reduce something without cutting it entirely?


8 posted on 02/27/2010 11:40:16 PM PST by Netizen
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To: greeneyes

Did you go to the link? There are several thousand line items there. Go ahead and run the numbers. Knock yourself out.The deficit is about 1,000 billion dollars, out of a total budget of about 3,300 billion dollars. You’re not going to get a balanced budget by cutting a few things along the edges.


9 posted on 02/27/2010 11:42:42 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("We can't control nature" - Barack Obama, Feb 27, 2010)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Interesting... Cutting TARP results in an INCREASE in the budget. How does that work?

The money was spent in prior years and the money is being paid back now.

TARP was the Bush Administration thing. It was designed to be deficit neutral, and could possibly bring in more money than it originally cost. Whether it was a good idea in the first place is another debate.

TARP shouldn't be confused with Obama's Porkulus bill, which is pretty much just massive fraud.
10 posted on 02/27/2010 11:47:32 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("We can't control nature" - Barack Obama, Feb 27, 2010)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

extremely cool ... if Congress wasn’t granted the power to spend it in the constitution, I cut it.

$1,963 billion and work -,149 hours more year.


11 posted on 02/27/2010 11:47:43 PM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I didn’t say cut ONLY Czar’s and Congresscritters, I said START with them, or are you in love with the Czars??????

Anyway it was actually a satirical joke. Jeeeeeeeeez. Take a chill pill.


12 posted on 02/27/2010 11:47:57 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Anyway it was actually a satirical joke.

So was balancing the budget by "starving orphans and seniors".
13 posted on 02/27/2010 11:49:50 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("We can't control nature" - Barack Obama, Feb 27, 2010)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Well I thought you were making a joke until you freakin jumped on me with did you go to the site etc.


14 posted on 02/27/2010 11:51:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

LOL, too funny!!!


15 posted on 02/28/2010 2:58:27 AM PST by gattaca (Great things can be accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tjbandrowsky
very cool!

I did I quick review and got it down to $362 billion and work 76 hours more year. granted, I was just getting started. there are thousands of things I could say. But who is the author of this program? I have some ideas that could make this webpage WILDY popular.

16 posted on 02/28/2010 3:19:21 AM PST by jimjohn2458 (jimjohn - conservative, and more black than the Obamination)
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To: tjbandrowsky

I kept the military and a little welfare going while cutting over $800 billion from the incomes of government-employed family-haters and assorted other pathological thieves. Then I thought, “Hmmm. Why not just encourage them to keep spending more, until the big default eliminates big government waste?”


17 posted on 02/28/2010 4:56:54 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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Ok...I must be eligible to work for the current government...

How does one make the program run?

I am clicking on stuff and nothing happens?


18 posted on 02/28/2010 5:13:15 AM PST by EBH (The warning bell of Freedom is ringing, can you not hear it?)
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To: EBH

you need to have javascript enabled and also the latest browser - Firefox, Google Chrome. Sorry for the rough ride.


19 posted on 02/28/2010 8:01:30 AM PST by tjbandrowsky
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

What they did with TARP is that last year they paid it all out. This year the TARP is a credit as it represents what the banks have paid back.

I’ll look at the healthcare fraud and abuse control - its possible that there are separate programs for it - or separate line items for on and off budget expenses. I’m using the basis is a CSV supplied by the CBO.

As far as the impact of reducing regulation, its outside of the scope of this story, but, I’m actually going to look at the effects of that and also policies regarding taxation on things like energy in a more complicated simulation that is coming. In that, you’ll see various demographics and get to play some policy what if. It turns out really that raising taxes (or regulating) on one thing has spillover effects in that some people just eat the higher price and cut elsewhere, particularly, loan repayments.


20 posted on 02/28/2010 8:04:41 AM PST by tjbandrowsky
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To: Netizen

Not in this release. Eventually I’ll add it. Also going to have state budgets in there as well.


21 posted on 02/28/2010 8:05:29 AM PST by tjbandrowsky
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To: jimjohn2458

I wrote it and I’m always interested in feedback. Indeed, the reason that I posted it first on freeper is that as a rule the posters here are very intelligent people and the feedback I get is excellent. Thank you all of you.


22 posted on 02/28/2010 8:06:48 AM PST by tjbandrowsky
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To: tjbandrowsky
you need to have javascript enabled and also the latest browser - Firefox, Google Chrome. Sorry for the rough ride.

I have all of those and I can only cut completely or do nothing. I can't reduce something. It's like all or nothing.

23 posted on 02/28/2010 9:26:26 AM PST by Netizen
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To: tjbandrowsky

What about when the government pays farmers to not grow crops, where does that fall?


24 posted on 02/28/2010 9:29:05 AM PST by Netizen
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To: Netizen

That’s the way it works right now. There’s not a partially cut or increase funding on items. I’ll have in a future release.


25 posted on 03/30/2010 10:17:15 PM PDT by tjbandrowsky
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Cool. Ping me when those changes are in the release.


26 posted on 03/31/2010 7:23:41 AM PDT by Netizen
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