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Guns at Starbucks? Thousands say no (POLL to FReep!)
Seattlepi Blogs ^ | February 11, 2010 12:04 p.m. | Monica Guzman

Posted on 02/13/2010 4:27:55 AM PST by Solitar

In case you missed it ... A gun-control group has been circulating a petition demanding that Starbucks ban guns in its stores. Today, the Brady Campaign announced it has gathered more than 25,000 signatures.

"We urge Starbucks to respect the rights of the vast majority of its customers, who seek to take their families into its stores without facing the intimidating presence of openly carried guns," Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign, said in a statement.

This all started when word spread that advocates of openly carrying guns in public were meeting at Starbucks in and around California's Bay Area.

"We're just a bunch of citizens exercising their Second Amendment rights, which if you don't use them, you'll probably lose them," Open Carry advocate Gus Konstantaras told ABC News last month.

California Pizza Kitchen and Peet's Coffee and Tea have just banned guns in their restaurants. Starbucks has not. But it gave this statement to Melissa Allison at The Seattle Times:

For Starbucks, the safety of our customers and partners is our paramount concern. We have existing security protocols in place to handle situations related to safety in our stores. We will continue to adhere closely to local, state and federal laws and the counsel of law enforcement regarding this issue.

The Brady Campaign's petition reads:

I demand that Starbucks stand up for the safety of its customers and prohibit guns in your retail establishments. Guns don't belong in restaurants and coffee shops where children and families gather. You have the legal right to keep your coffee shops free from guns. The recent push among some gun owners to carry openly displayed guns, strapped to their hips, is intimidating and potentially dangerous. It puts families and law enforcement officers at risk. Reverse your unwise decision and keep our families safe.

Open Carry advocates laid out the group's case to the San Francisco Chronicle video link

[POLL results at this time]

Should Starbucks ban guns in its stores?

6.8%
Absolutely. They have no business being there.

87.8%
No. People should have the right to carry them

5.4%
Gun rights debates belong in courtrooms, not coffee shops


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; coffee; opencarry; starbucks
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To: maddog55

LOL!

Exactly where do people go to Starbucks with their intimidating sidearms hanging out??

Maybe we should all save the environment by NOT buying Starbucks coffee? Truth be told, here in Carroll County, Maryland the folks behind the counter at my local Starbucks are probably packing heaters.


21 posted on 02/13/2010 5:39:32 AM PST by incredulous joe (Barack Hussien Obama; putting the 'Doh' into Domestic Terrorism!)
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To: Solitar

Thanks

Should Starbucks ban guns in its stores?

6.5% Absolutely. They have no business being there.

88.3% No. People should have the right to carry them

5.2% Gun rights debates belong in courtrooms, not coffee shops

Total Votes: 4168


22 posted on 02/13/2010 5:40:31 AM PST by ricmc2175
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To: Solitar

Starbucks is free to ban guns and you’re free to take your business elsewhere.


23 posted on 02/13/2010 5:40:57 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Solitar

Starbucks robs you without a gun.


24 posted on 02/13/2010 5:44:09 AM PST by Iron Munro (God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy)
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To: Non-Sequitur

We’re free to tell Starbucks how many customers they may lose if they ban guns.


25 posted on 02/13/2010 5:51:58 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: maddog55

Good retort. I love those men who are not afraid to serve, what men! Hell with the prices I’ve seen in Starbucks, would I rather buy a gun or buy one of their grande’s.


26 posted on 02/13/2010 6:00:08 AM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: KeyLargo

You guys qualify once a year with 30 rounds?


27 posted on 02/13/2010 6:10:32 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Solitar

I wished we had open carry here in Texas.

I’m just afraid a criminal may accuse me of entrapment for carrying concealed.


28 posted on 02/13/2010 6:11:20 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Solitar
I think your title needs to be fixed. It should say:

"Ban Guns at Starbucks, Thousands say no..."

29 posted on 02/13/2010 6:36:10 AM PST by Poseidon
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To: servantboy777

In Texas, the signs are only enforcable if the get more than 50% of their sales from alcohol. A restaurant I frequent once did but kept their signs up. I still carry my CW when I eat there. Once they ask you to leave (if they see your weapon) you must leave or you are trespassing.

I would not open carry. Too easy for someone to snatch your weapon from behind. Happens to cops on occasion, killed by their own weapons.


30 posted on 02/13/2010 6:37:56 AM PST by TStro
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To: Poseidon
"Ban Guns at Starbucks? Thousands say no..."

Sorry, fixed now. The way your title reads, it suggests that the polling indicates that thousands say no guns at Starbucks. However, the poll says the opposite with thousands supporting the right to carry in the coffee cave...

31 posted on 02/13/2010 6:38:47 AM PST by Poseidon
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To: Solitar
Dunkin Donuts is CCW friendly and its better!


32 posted on 02/13/2010 6:39:20 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Solitar

The solution is simple, we should start our own petition and tell Starbucks that if they follow the suggestion of those “thousands” of anti-second amendment freaks, then all of us who support the second amendment will get our coffee at Dunkin’ Donuts.


33 posted on 02/13/2010 6:42:32 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: fwdude
I am an avowed CHL holder in Texas and carry extensively, but business owners have the right to mandate who and what they allow in THEIR businesses.

I agree, but as you should know, the business owner must comply with State laws by posting the paragraph 30.06 notice at each entrance.

A simple sign that says No Guns Allowed does not meet the State mandated guidelines and is non-binding.

34 posted on 02/13/2010 6:45:04 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: maddog55

Photo op pic? That weapon won’t fire.


35 posted on 02/13/2010 6:45:14 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: maddog55

Battle ready with an unloaded weapon.


36 posted on 02/13/2010 6:48:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You noticed that too? What the hell’s he doing without a mag in it?

I assumed it was just a photo op.


37 posted on 02/13/2010 6:50:17 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7
New ROE’s from the 0 administration.
38 posted on 02/13/2010 6:51:15 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: mad_as_he$$

LOL!

Sadly, though, that’s probably not too far from the truth.


39 posted on 02/13/2010 6:52:45 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

“You noticed that too? What the hell’s he doing without a mag in it?”

The picture was probably taken in California.


40 posted on 02/13/2010 7:00:04 AM PST by pyrless (If you're gonna burn our flag, make sure you wrap yourself in it first!)
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