Posted on 02/07/2010 7:42:22 AM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys. The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman. Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website. The girl had previously been reported missing. The informant told the police she had been killed following a family "council" meeting. Her father and grandfather are said to have been arrested and held in custody pending trial. It is unclear whether they have been charged. The girl's mother was arrested but was later released. Media reports said the father had told relatives he was unhappy that his daughter – one of nine children – had male friends. The grandfather is said to have beaten her for having relations with the opposite sex. A postmortem examination revealed large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she had been alive and conscious while being buried. Her body showed no signs of bruising. The discovery will reopen the emotive debate in Turkey about "honour" killings, which are particularly prevalent in the impoverished south-east. Official figures have indicated that more than 200 such killings take place each year, accounting for around half of all murders in Turkey.
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“Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys”
They would prefer maybe that she be interested in girls?
Gotta love those muzzies.
Get ready, ‘cause they’re here!!!
IMPACT OF HOMOSEXUALITY, FEMINISM AND PC ON THE WEST
I believe it was the EARLY Romans who prohibited several classes of people from holding public office: Those of illegitimate birth (bastards), eunuchs and homosexuals. (That unfortunately changed leading up to the fall.)
While these children had no choice in the matter, bastards were prohibited because, having no sense of their family past or history, they could not be trusted to operate for the good of the culture based on its history or traditions.
Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.
While there are a number of exceptions, I’ll let YOU tell me what sort of folks we have in public office HERE today.
It appears that America has employed technology to compress into slightly over 240 years what it took the Romans over 2,000 to achieve — total and utter cultural collapse.
I believe the Romans would also have put radical feminists in that group – had they permitted radical feminism at the time. Wisely, they did not. More on that a bit later.
While channel-surfing recently, I stopped for a moment on an Animal Planet show featuring two lesbian roommates. And, no, they were NOT in the bedroom. As I watched, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radical feminists on our culture.
None of these thoughts are original to me and all have been written about and discussed ad nauseam. This little rant is really an exercise in catharsis.
At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent. Again, there are exceptions – such as the moron from California (where else?) cited below — but I haven’t personally met them and hope I don’t as there would be serious trouble between us.
Having said that, I fear that the homosexual – and the recent politically correct fervor to further legitimize that lifestyle – has done irreparable harm to our NATIONAL life and what remains of what many of us still call Western European Culture. When that impact is coupled with the rise of radical feminism (you’ll be pleased to know that the EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT is again being disinterred), the product is a result from which the West may never recover.
Allow me to explain:
The physiological fact is that homosexuals normally do not reproduce. The current population replacement rate – the rate necessary to maintain the current native born population level — for the United States is somewhere north of 2 children per couple. Homosexuals usually don’t HAVE kids. Add the radical feminist impact – which holds that motherhood is some form of slavery and has driven many women to seek “fulfillment” OUTSIDE the home — and the current birth rate here is disturbingly FAR BELOW 2.1 per couple.
The other side of the demographic coin is that the virtually unrestrained immigration policies of past administrations have brought a huge influx of people from cultures radically different from that which existed here prior to the advent of PC, diversity, tolerance and all the other names by which many now call these self, nation and culture identity destroying behaviors.
Add the millions and millions of illegals who are now placing such a physical and economic burden on the healthcare and school systems that natural born citizens are being taxed to death and/or cannot, themselves, get the services to which they would otherwise be entitled. It’s a recipe for chaos.
And the politicians – who hope these new welfare recipients will support their perpetual reelection — turn a blind eye.
And as these groups agitate and campaign for THEIR particular flavor of diversity and tolerance, they also give added traction to virtually EVERY OTHER flavor. As they change millions of minds and cause others to reconsider long-standing and time-tested value systems, they are turning our world upside down.
The effect of these factors is that the America in which many of us older folks grew up is disappearing at an alarming rate. As the nation many of us came to love – and donned uniforms to defend – drifts toward some sort of Balkanized
despotism, large segments of these new arrivals – who know little and care even less of the traditions, values and history of this place and even refuse to learn the common tongue — separate themselves into ghetto-like enclaves where outsiders are often not welcomed unless they’re spending money. We run the very serious risk of repeating the experiences of the former Yugoslavia from which some of my people came.
Speaking of whom, my great-great grandparents waited for years then stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be deloused, interrogated and told they had to learn English and our history and traditions and pass a test – something the Hispanics and radical Muslim terrorists strolling across the border with Mexico don’ t have to do.
The Clinton administration – well known for its tolerance of the gay lifestyle – published some statistics in connection with AIDS that startled many. Of course, the PC then rearing its ugly head prohibited all but the brave from commenting on any of that.
The CDC statistics showed that 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are
1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals,
(the largest subset)
2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and
3. IV drug abusers who share needles.
(Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn’t it?)
The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other,
non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual “leader” on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).
So, with the population replacement rate practically down to zero, we have some “leaders” of the homosexual community – who do nothing to help raise that rate – encouraging their members to make ill or kill those of us who have and/or are having and raising kids here.
I find it fascinating that many members of the homosexual community and the radical feminists are on the front line of the assault on traditional values and seek to replace them with more tolerance, diversity and other politically correct nonsense. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
While their activities have produced short-term benefits for them, that diversity, tolerance and egalitarianism have also opened the door to the idea that no culture is “better” than any other. Obama – apparently having confused Chicago with America — spent days recently apologizing to everyone he met for our defective, decadent and corrupt culture.
And that has brought to our shores a formerly foreign culture, the more radical elements of which are breeding at a rate well in excess of the rate among the indigenous LEGAL and NATURAL BORN population.
And, just as it already has in Great Britain and continental Europe, with those increasing numbers will come increased political and social power.
And with that will surely come a foreign theology and law system.
And that foreign theology – that’d be Islam— and law system – that’d be Sharia — DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY and regards WOMEN AS CHATTEL WHO HAVE NO PERSONAL RIGHTS LET ALONE THE SORT OF FREEDOM TO WHICH THE FEMINISTS ARE ACCUSTOMED.
The bottom line, gays and ladies? You will either fall under the sword (put to death for you government school folk) or confined to the house unless your “man” – who will beat you periodically – wants to take you out, in which case you will be garbed from head to toe. And, only HE can drive the car.
Here’s a short video clip of the reward your PC destruction of traditional American values will bring you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlyeT1MBEzE
A number of years ago, a writer posited that there was a “War Against Boys” within and without the government school system. He opined that little boys were being psychologically and emotionally emasculated by millions of female teachers and others in the America of John Wayne.
We have now entered the era of the feminized “metrosexual” (one now occupies the White House) where boys are discouraged – often prohibited — from playing games with toy plastic guns, rubber knives or other weapons. Feminists, if it hadn’t been for millions of young men with REAL guns venturing forth from time-to-time to face down very rough folks with designs on this country – and YOU — your freedom (albeit shrinking thanks largely to our having become the Metrosexual States of America) to promulgate your radical worldview would not exist.
So there you have it.
I’d urge you to think about these things while there MIGHT still be time to alter course.
PS: I had to get this out of my system BEFORE the new, improved congress passes the pending legislation making it a crime to post ANYTHING on the web that could in any way cause ANYONE emotional distress. Would it matter that it was factual? Nope! While it’s probable that the Supremes will rule it a violation of the First Amendment, I’d rather not squander my kids’ small inheritance on lawyers bringing the case.
Dick Bachert
5/6/2009
You don’t want to know. A buddy of mine runs a unit in Afghanistan. He keeps referring to “Man-Love Thursday”, when the Afghan troops his outfit is training, get all distracted by preparation for their “dates” that evening.
Note: there are no women for 20+ miles.
Yeah, I threw up in my mouth a little on hearing that too. . .
More like ignorance and stupidity, in an impoverished area, where they all are uneducated and superstitious. They haven’t caught up to modern civilization. This exists in more places in the world than we can think of. Its not solely an Islamic thing. Ever watch Zorba the Greek?
Uh, no. While there are other types of violence in impoverished places (like say Central/South America), these particular types of medieval and disgusting punishments are almost always Muslim. I don’t buy the “impoverished” argument. Even Muslims who come to first world countries commit these disgusting crimes. Saudi Arabia is impoverished? Is Turkey even a poor country? I honestly don’t know. I’m sure it’s not on the level of a first world country, but they are in the EU.
“More like ignorance and stupidity, in an impoverished area,”
Impoverished? BULLS!@T!
WHERE IS THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT?????????????????? TO BUSY PICKING AND CHOOSING YOUR FIGHTS? HYPOCRITES!
Now, now... who are we to judge a superior Third World culture?
Islam is the religion of death in this age.
It was to the effect that homosexuality did not appreciably cause a civilization to retreat. Rather, widespread acceptance of homosexuality is a clear warning that civilization is in rapid decline. He cited the late Roman, high Islamic, and interwar British societies.
Now, much of Western Europe and the US, our institutions, and popular culture embrace a self destructive “lifestyle” that is clearly not in the national interest.
...but Obama says we shouldn’t jump to conclusions....
Low life animals.
They are superior, they emit less greenhouse gasses! /s
“... widespread acceptance of homosexuality is a clear warning that civilization is in rapid decline.”
Excellent point, though I’m not terribly sure how the thread was morphed into an anti-gay thread. I’ll try mightily to draw things together. Here goes.
Gays are nothing new in our society, or any other for that matter. Homosexuality has always been with us, and their existence does not adversely affect the society. But when such behavior is commonly accepted as acceptable (or even desirable) behavior, it indicates a laxness of laxness standards. If everything is permitted, then nothing is forbidden. The society goes down the toilet. A universal acceptance of what was forbidden, is merely a bellweather of societal norms unraveling. Not a good thing.
By the same token, Islamic society has been disfunctional for some time. Truly, the only thing that has buoyed them up is oil money. That, and the willingness for Wahabists to dump a potload of dough into spreading their screwy word. Islam is certainly not what it was in the first millennium. This pervasive misogyny was not always present within Islam. Its very presence is another indication societal disfunction. What will be interesting to see, is what Turkish society chooses to do about this atrocity. That is the gold standard re. societal degeneracy. No official action, means official acceptance.
There’s a simple solution to the problem: start shooting or hanging the people responsible. That ought to stop the murders.
mooslimism is a warped culture. “honor” killing???! you mooslims are f’ing crazy. please...go kill your selves. leave others alone. i spit on you and your diseased culoture...the culture of DEATH.
Yes, Behold the wonderful, magnificent, benevolent ,compassionate, wise , merciful, all-knowing, all-seeing Religion of Peace!! Draw near and be touched by its loving hands and clasped to the bosom of it’s tender heart.(sarcasm) What a bunch of 7th. century f**King troglodytes.
I spent a year in Afghanistan (just got back in November) doing exactly what your buddy is now doing.
Man-Love Thursday is very real. There was an article on Foxnews.com a few weeks ago all about it.
Here is the link:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/?test=latestnews
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