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To: Kevmo
Thanks for showing your ignorance. That’s the thing about cold fusion — the bar keeps getting raised for it while the bar for plasma fusion gets lowered. Much of this is due to ignorance like yours, which is a fine example of a perpetual motion machine in itself.

Ok, thats a bit harsh,

If it works and it is so much cheaper, where are the power plants, where the major experimental reactors, why are the greenies and scientists not screaming for further development?

I get it, it is a conspiracy right, they either have some thing against the scientist whom developed it, or its big oil, or the scientists that are behind plasma fusion, or.... you pick.

Its like all the stories that I heard about when I was in high school, the car that ran on water or got 200 mpg , some company bought up the plans and it hid them away and they were never produced, it's a bunch of crap.

Some engineer somewhere really had designed cold fusion that worked and was in anyway remotely feasible, reproducible and had any hope of becoming a major power source IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE PLACE, you couldn't hide it, some country somewhere would be building the damn things and telling the oil companies to take a flying leap.

If some company had thought that any engineer was within a billion dollars of having a production model that even produced a megawatt of useful electricity they would make that engineer the richest man in the world, forget Bill Gates, and YOU COULD NOT HIDE IT, even if they bought the damn thing and all the plans and tried to hide, IT WOULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, somebody somewhere would make one and say screw it, China for one would love the guy and be building the things tomorrow.

68 posted on 01/30/2010 11:55:54 AM PST by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: tricky_k_1972

If it works and it is so much cheaper, where are the power plants, where the major experimental reactors, why are the greenies and scientists not screaming for further development?
***They’re busy pouring $billions into Tokomak reactors. Your reasoning seems to be that if it were a real possibility, it would just magically appear.

I get it, it is a conspiracy right, they either have some thing against the scientist whom developed it, or its big oil, or the scientists that are behind plasma fusion, or.... you pick.
***I’ll pick the one about the scientists whose livelihood depends upon that guvmint paycheck they get from you & me. Why did the Wright brothers toil in obscurity for 5 years after they had invented the airplane? Using your reasoning, it all should have just magically happened over night. But it didn’t. Which conspiracy theory is responsible for that? Go ahead, you pick.

Its like all the stories that I heard about when I was in high school, the car that ran on water or got 200 mpg , some company bought up the plans and it hid them away and they were never produced, it’s a bunch of crap.
***No it isn’t like all those goofball stories. Show me where such a device was published in Physics Letters or by the American Chemical Society. No, you can’t. Because your analogy has a crapball blindside. I don’t mind that you’re so ignorant, what I mind is that you won’t put your money where your mouth is. I’ve already won money doing this at Intrade, not because there’s some goofball con game going on but because there are ignorant marks like you sounding off their big mouths. But you won’t do that, because your mouth is huge but there’s nothing to back it up.

Some engineer somewhere really had designed cold fusion that worked and was in anyway remotely feasible, reproducible and had any hope of becoming a major power source IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE PLACE, you couldn’t hide it, some country somewhere would be building the damn things and telling the oil companies to take a flying leap.
***In 1903 there were 2 wily bicycle mechanics who made an airplane. Was their invention ALL OVER THE PLACE a month later? No. Was it prima facia evidence that they did not invent the airplane? No. But it is prima facia evidence that your ridiculous analogy is worthless.

If some company had thought that any engineer was within a billion dollars of having a production model that even produced a megawatt of useful electricity they would make that engineer the richest man in the world, forget Bill Gates, and YOU COULD NOT HIDE IT, even if they bought the damn thing and all the plans and tried to hide, IT WOULDN’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, somebody somewhere would make one and say screw it, China for one would love the guy and be building the things tomorrow.
***What a stupid hypothetical. First of all, it presumes production model. It’s because of idiots like you that this technology hasn’t gotten that far. Then you presume that the companies would willingly make such an engineer rich, as if this was their primary purpose in life. Then you presume that they’d try to hide it, another ridiculous premise which actually argues against your own earlier premise that it couldn’t be hidden. Then you proceed along this assumption that this technology is supposed to be ready for production, which is a further reinforcement of the point I made earlier — that the bar is raised higher for cold fusion than for plasma fusion. Plasma fusion has 60 years, $billions of dollars pissed away, and maybe 10 seconds of fusion time. Cold fusion has 20 years, $millions, and maybe an accumulated 1 year of fusion time. But that doesn’t stop you from proceeding forth with your ridiculous assumptions and broken analogies. Thanks again for showing your ignorance. I just wish you’d put your money where your big mouth is.


71 posted on 01/30/2010 2:20:50 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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