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Obama Set to Go Nuclear?
National Review Online ^ | January 29, 2010 | William Tucker

Posted on 01/29/2010 11:25:34 PM PST by neverdem

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To: HiTech RedNeck
There were fears that terrorists or rogue states might make off with the concentrated fuel to create dirty bombs or nuclear weapon

Which were nothing by Envirowackjob propaganda to justify Jimmy Carter killing the program. The French have had such a breeder reactor to recycle spent fuel for 50 years and never had any such problem.

It would be easier for terrorist or a rouge state to steal a working nuke then it would for them to "make off" with the concentrated fuel.

41 posted on 01/30/2010 4:20:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money" Lady Thatcher)
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To: neverdem
While I want more nuclear plants I don't want it under Obama's control. Think of the cost of each plant when figured into his plan: Unions, regulations, lawyers, etc.

He plans to use these plants as payoffs to more of his special interests using tax dollars.

Will these be private or govr owned? If private I would agree. But. I bet dollars to donuts he plans to take them over or incorporate them into the federal govt.

42 posted on 01/30/2010 4:23:36 AM PST by raybbr
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To: CalvaryJohn
From the Moon landing ...

It didn't happen? I saw it on TV not the internet.

43 posted on 01/30/2010 4:31:55 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: HiTech RedNeck; neverdem
.....How could Bummer possibly do something that sensible?....

Because he and all his White House cronies stand to make a bundle of money. Read this entire long article and see that they are already knee deep in nuclear power business.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2438337/posts

Do not forget.... the Democrat party is a criminal enterprise

44 posted on 01/30/2010 4:36:34 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: FreedomPoster

No I haven’t invested :) Still I’ve been following this company closely and don’t see the red flags I have seen with others who make this kind of claim.

They say that today’s experiment will demonstrate that more energy comes out of their device than goes in.

Supposedly through the month of February, the public will be invited to come and measure their devices with their own instruments if they wish.

I understand the skepticism, but in my judgement this is worth taking a look at.


45 posted on 01/30/2010 4:46:41 AM PST by Normandy
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To: neverdem
This is going to get the ball rolling.

I veiw it as a meaty bone; tossed over the fence for the watchdog to chew on, while the burglar slips in and steals the family jewels.

46 posted on 01/30/2010 5:13:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I seem to recall — fellow Freepers will correct me if I’m wrong — but reprocessing was banned under the Carter administration ( might have been before then), due to a fear at that time of nuclear proliferation of enriched fuel.


47 posted on 01/30/2010 5:28:17 AM PST by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: Normandy
OK, as someone with a very, very strong Thermodynamics background (GT BME, MSME), I offer you this:

No. Just no.

Words to live by. (requires sound)

48 posted on 01/30/2010 5:45:49 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Crolis

That is correct, and unfortunately no one to follow has seen fit to overturn the Carter EO.


49 posted on 01/30/2010 5:46:52 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: neverdem
Bush wanted more Nuclear Plants.

It talkes a good 10 to 12 years to get one Nuclear Plant underway. With so much Red Tape and law suits from environmental wacos, Obama will be long gone before he sees the light from any of his new plants.

Drill, baby..Drill.

50 posted on 01/30/2010 5:57:21 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Oh, my goodness, a self-regulating industry ~ too many reactors, send in more French. Not enough, pull 'em out.

Just like a nuclear reactor!

51 posted on 01/30/2010 6:07:59 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Carley
What’s the catch.

He knows the cost of building them is too prohibitive for utility companies.
52 posted on 01/30/2010 6:18:56 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

As with the high speed rail, the permits will be decades of Court challenges.

Lots of billions spread around to the pols, nothing that will ever create a single job. Except for the lawyers, of course.


53 posted on 01/30/2010 6:59:47 AM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

All talk.


54 posted on 01/30/2010 7:46:25 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


55 posted on 01/30/2010 7:49:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: CalvaryJohn

I dare you to put your money where your mouth is. I already made money betting that Dr. Arata’s experiment would be replicated in a peer-reviewed, scientific journal. So, feel free to take this sucker’s money.

I know you won’t do it, because you have a big mouth. Call me when your $5B Tokomak reactor breaks even and achieves full ignition. Heck, I’ll even give you one better: call me when our hot fusion reactors generate more Joules than the cold fusion reactors have demonstrated.

Your lack of discernment is disconcerting, but only because you have a big mouth and you won’t put your money where that big, ignorant mouth is so that I can make money off of your ignorance.


56 posted on 01/30/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: neverdem

I forced myself to listen to as much of that speech as I could endure. I was shocked when I heard that.

The DUers must be beside themselves.

I’ll believe it when I see it.


57 posted on 01/30/2010 8:02:51 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dsc

Exactly.


58 posted on 01/30/2010 8:37:43 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Kevmo

I’ll think there is something to cold-fusion when I see one in operation powering one LED handed over to the Scientists and Physicists in the Smithsonian, MIT, or DARPA for them to pour over, until then it’s relegated to perpetual motion machines, fun to look at some garage mechanics latest brake through, but of no scientific significance.


59 posted on 01/30/2010 9:06:57 AM PST by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: neverdem

Pebble based gas reactors are inherently safe, they cannot melt down and they are a nightmare to produce weapons grade byproducts.

We had pebble reactor tech in the 50s and GE and US government opted for water based Rod controlled core reactors that produce weapons grade plutonium as a byproduct. This was done by design to supply our nuclear bomb program, and pebble reactors were left by the wayside.

Also it was Westinghouse that had the pebble tech and now the Japanese own it. But that doesn’t mean we can’t resurrect it because the tech is far past its patent protection period.

Of course if we had gone with pebbles after Three-Mile Island we could be far less dependent on foreign petroleum and we would have a reliable non-polluting power infrastructure with low rate costs and plenty of capacity to charge plugin cars.

And yet our nuclear program is primed to carry on with water cased reactors, why? Because the old suppliers are still there, namely GE.

Why can’t we be smart about this? Because everything political in America is local, and only large corporations (GE) can forge time consuming costly agreements in communities.

But there is a solution; give grant money to a capable local power plant operator to build a pebble reactor on a fasttrack schedule and support and promote them, make them a positive example, then point to the GE retards and their influence peddlers in Washington and say they are NOT the way forward!

Otherwise we are left with GE backed operators and water-based reactors and all their safety problems and costs. And down the road we will be looking at high rate power to consumers and all manner of safety hearings etc.

When in the alternative all we have to do is embrace pebble based nuclear reactors, which was ours, invented right here in the USA, in an era when America held all the cards and a spirit of innovation.


60 posted on 01/30/2010 10:11:26 AM PST by Hostage
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