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North American Muslims issue fatwa
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| January 8, 2010
| Islamic Supreme Council of Canada
Posted on 01/08/2010 10:20:13 PM PST by spyone
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To: equaviator
Well, I guess you never read any of the Islamic holy books, or you would not say that they have been corrupted by extremists. Who cares about atheists? They have their own row to hoe.
401
posted on
01/10/2010 3:48:54 PM PST
by
PIF
To: ZULU
how the hell do you know what you know more of compared to someone else?
I was thinking I was helping you out but sod it
402
posted on
01/10/2010 4:25:26 PM PST
by
manc
(WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
To: ZULU
“allah akkk!” is about all they’ll get to if I’m in the room ... ;-)
403
posted on
01/10/2010 5:05:37 PM PST
by
Tunehead54
(Nothing funny here ;-)
To: ZULU
Maybe this is really a positive overture by the Islamic Community. It's going to take more than words = especially since the fanatics are taught it's allowed to lie to the infidels - to make friends with them and then kill them.
Which is exactly what the CIA bomber did...
Let's hope this is sincere - and not a 'mass-move' to be 'friends' before a wide spread move...
Reagan: "Trust - but verify."
404
posted on
01/10/2010 7:27:48 PM PST
by
maine-iac7
("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
To: spyone
They can smell the backlash that’s coming.
America’s patience has worn thin with the Satan-worshipping sons-of-bitches.
If there is one more successful attack on this country, I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.
405
posted on
01/10/2010 11:57:20 PM PST
by
Yankee
(Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
To: spyone; STARWISE
406
posted on
01/11/2010 12:54:19 AM PST
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus)
To: Yankee
“Americas patience has worn thin with the Satan-worshipping sons-of-bitches.”
~~~
Roger Dat!,,,
“What Has This Country Come To!” was the general topic
with the locals as well as the out-of-town folks at
the Gun Show on Sat.,,,
Met some friends and walked around a little,,,
The “Crush” came about 1:00 when the crowd got there,,,
Texas folks I guess,,,
We retreated to the snack bar for coffee and watched the
stream of folks go by with new guns and lot's of ammo,,,
I've never been so happy to live in NW Louisiana,,,
I've never been so sad for the folks that have to live in
the North...
407
posted on
01/11/2010 1:15:19 AM PST
by
1COUNTER-MORTER-68
(THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
To: spyone
Why would they not want to die, considering the virgins and all. Too much blood on their hands to believe them on the surface. Evidence first over a period of time, then perhaps more acceptance. Until then, defend yourselves.
408
posted on
01/11/2010 1:19:14 AM PST
by
seedman81
(Sanctus Bellum Videlicet "Rubble doesn't make trouble.")
To: PIF
“Well, I guess you never read any of the Islamic holy books, or you would not say that they have been corrupted by extremists.”
I never said that the books or texts of the Islamic holy books have been corrupted by jihadists or extremists. I’m pointing out that Islamic extremists who murder and believe they have “martyred” other muslims for their non-jihadist interpretation(s) are not legitimate muslims. For these terrorists and their victims, there is absolutely nothing to be gained unless their surviving family members have been paid in exchange for a volunteer(s) to perform a terrorist act(s).
The idea that the victims are also martyred makes me wonder why the victims’ families are not being paid.
Nevertheless, if those kinds of terrorist contracts are carried out apart from normal muslim society then it would be like the American mafia where they might take solace in the fact or attempt to justify their actions by pointing out that they were only having other mobsters killed.
409
posted on
01/11/2010 6:08:15 AM PST
by
equaviator
("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
To: maine-iac7
“It’s going to take more than words = especially since the fanatics are taught it’s allowed to lie to the infidels - to make friends with them and then kill them.”
“Which is exactly what the CIA bomber did...”
For some, that’s just another inconvenient truth.
410
posted on
01/11/2010 6:11:22 AM PST
by
equaviator
("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
To: equaviator
“Im pointing out that Islamic extremists who murder and believe they have martyred other muslims for their non-jihadist interpretation(s) are not legitimate muslims.”
There is only one version of Islam. If you have read the 5 books (koran, muslims, bukhari, tabari, and ishaq) then you would know that there is no such thing as a “legitimate muslim”. There is only one kind. No other.
If you imagine that any of the acts of violence by “muslim extemist” is commited for monetary gain then you totally misunderstand their intents, and motivations. Islam is not a Middle Eastern version of Christainity - from which view point you seem to be looking at all of this. Islam is the antithesis of Christainity/Jedaiism.
Jihad is “normal muslim society”. Jihad is obligitiory for all muslims. The Mafia comparison is inept and misleading - the Mafia does what they do for money and power, jihadis do what they do because allah commanded all muslims to jihad.
When jihadis are not killing westerners, the are busy killing each other - why do you imagine the Saudis export their most violent imams to the west setting up wahhabist mosques? As any honest Saudi will tell you - it is because they fear them, and it is better to have them any where else than in Saudi.
As for the moderate or the normal muslim - those who have not done jihadi... yet, they best thought of this way:
“They also serve who only stand and wait.” - John Milton, in the poem “On His Blindness”.
I don’t know if you’ve ever read the Asia Times and Spengler, but here’s an illustrative joke about normal Islmic society:
A Comparative Tale of Two Religions
Christian vs. Christian
A man was despondent. His life seemed worthless. He decided to end it all and climbed up onto a bridge railing high above a raging river.
Just as he was leaning forward to make his final plunge, a man happened by and said, “Wait. Let me help you.”
How can you help me? My life is over?”
“Are you a Christian, Jew, Hindu or Muslim?”
“A Christian”
“So am I! What denomination are you?”
“I used to be a Catholic, but have not been to mass in decades.”
“Im a Protestant. Let me help you find your way back to life.”
“What can you possibly tell me?”
“I can tell you that Jesus loves you and for His sake and His love of you, you cannot take your life. There is so much more to live for.”
“Like what?”
“Children.”
“I dont have any.”
“Neither do I. But there are still children in need of adults to guide them. Would you deny some child your wisdom and experience?”
“No, of course not!”
“Then step back and come with me.”
So the two men walked off together.
Muslims vs. Muslim
Far away in a distant land, another man stood on a different bridge.
A man was walking across a bridge one day, and he saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off and commit suicide.
He immediately ran over and said, “Stop! Dont do it!”
“Why shouldnt I?” the other replied.
The man said, “Well, theres so much to live for!”
“Like what?”
“Well
are you religious or atheist?”
“Religious.”
“Me too! Are you Muslim, Christian or Jewish?”
“Muslim.”
“Me too! Sunni or Shiite?”
“Sunni.”
“Me too! Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi or Maliki?”
“Hanafi.”
“Wow! Me too! Do you follow Sheikh Fulaan al-Fullani or Sheikh Kaza Kazah?”
“Sheikh Fulaan al-Fullani.”
To which the first man said, “What?!! Die, heretic scum!” and pushed him off the bridge.
From: Spenglers The Devils Sourdough and The Decline of Nations
411
posted on
01/11/2010 7:02:07 AM PST
by
PIF
To: PIF
“If you imagine that any of the acts of violence by muslim extemist is commited for monetary gain then you totally misunderstand their intents, and motivations.”
I should’ve referred to Saddam Hussein and how he would pay Islamic extremist’s families in US Dollars when one of them VOLUNTARILY martyred themselves and how no money was paid to any of the non-extremist muslim victims’ families- Sunni on Shiite, Shiite on Sunni, whatever. Either way, nothing is ever gained unless they martyr themselves right out of existence. That would be world’s gain and a loss to no one but Islamic extremists and other al Qaeda types.
412
posted on
01/11/2010 9:01:59 AM PST
by
equaviator
("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
To: equaviator
That would be Southern Syrian, aka Palestinian, families. It was the so-called honor of the families which was at stake - the money was paid after the event, not before. Mothers willingly sent their children to die, since the child was guaranteed “paradise”, while the family gained honor and prestige in their communities - the money was a side issue - it all went to Fatah and Hamas to buy more weapons to kill Israelis.
This is not a money issue - unless you count buying weapons and explosives to kill more non-muslims. Personal gain was not happening.
The muslim violence will never end as long as that book exits.
413
posted on
01/11/2010 9:18:53 AM PST
by
PIF
To: spyone
>>what do you think is going on here?
Smoke and mirrors - to allow the demographic incursion to continue unimpeded...
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http://ricgator.blogspot.com/2008/03/islams-progression-through-societies.html
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table.
Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book:
Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
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But Christianity requires Passivism you say?
Look again:
John 2:15
15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area,
both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
"COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM"--Thomas Jefferson
NEVER FORGET!
414
posted on
01/11/2010 9:29:50 AM PST
by
LomanBill
(Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
To: spyone
To: STARWISE
To: Tolsti2
They are pissing on us and trying to tell us it’s raining.
417
posted on
01/11/2010 7:02:28 PM PST
by
antceecee
(Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
To: La Enchiladita
Scary stuff La Dita... we are in Buffalo on family visit this week.
418
posted on
01/11/2010 7:22:54 PM PST
by
antceecee
(Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; hennie pennie
And in completely unrelated news 48 hours later...
Canadas airlines and airports have been put on a heightened state of alert.
CTV News reports Transport Canada issued a warning to all Canadian airlines, airports and the Air Transport Security Authority on Saturday after Canada received credible intelligence of a potential terrorist threat.
http://www.cfra.com/?cat=3&nid=70556
To: PIF
Okay...I question the assertion that non-extremist muslims who are murdered by Islamic extremists are not truly martyred. It’s jihad run amok.
420
posted on
01/12/2010 4:13:11 PM PST
by
equaviator
("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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