Posted on 01/08/2010 10:20:13 PM PST by spyone
Well, at least they are saying they are happy here...we are always complaining, and me the first to do it, that never one muslims in US are talking against terrorists - for once they do it so let’s keep an open mind. You know me - I am totally against the islamist invasion but if these guys finally would accept to be American before they are muslims and would defend America first..I guess we have at least to listen - if they really mean it and PROVE it then we have to praise them. What do you think?
**what do you think is going on here?**
CAIR gave the Same SONG AND DANCE just a week or so ago...
Sounds NICE, but you ragheads are a little LATE TO THE DANCE!!
Bring us the head of OSAMA.. then maybe we’ll have a place to start talking... MAYBE.
It's a start, and certainly better than anything I have seem from any Muslim group to date. The next step would be condemning terrorism simply because it is terrorism. Without that Islam will remain a belligerent ideology to all humanity.
Let's repeat this several thousand times.
I don’t think anything in their statement implies they would defend America (or Canada) to any serious extent, but I do agree that it seems like a positive statement which is rarely seen if ever from Imams etc.
On the one hand, Muslim clerics standing up publicly against jihad terrorism is most definitely welcome. On the other, I cannot accept their premise that it’s the presence of Muslims in N. America that makes such attacks evil and appalling.
...but if these guys finally would accept to be American before they are muslims and would defend America first..I guess we have at least to listen - if they really mean it and PROVE it then we have to praise them. What do you think?”
I agree — this may be a breakthrough, a better late than never. The money quote in the fatwa is:
“It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA. They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans.”
This can be the leverage needed by the more responsible parents need to keep their kids from being radicalized by the bad guys.
Yes it’s obviously Taqiyya
The word “Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding. It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
What’s going on?
Perhaps it’s just an example of how long it takes a Muslim to think thing out rationally (nine years); but In not holding my breath. I’m sure the other shoe will drop soon enough.
Now that a fatwa has been issued, that will gain approval, it’s only a matter of time until one is issued that won’t.
It’ll be one we don’t like at all.
These folks are nothing if not fickle when it comes to the West
Consider the objects of this message.
The message is being delivered to Muslims all over the world. Islamic terrorists will be unlikely to respond to a statement that they shouldn’t attack non-Muslims. The Imamas, I believe, are delivering a message in terms that are most likely to effectuate the desired results, i.e. bug off terrorist - you attack them and you attack us.
I could be wrong about this and you could be right. But this is the FIRST time I have heard of a Muslim group condemning terrorism. I hope it isn’t the last.
Exactly. If anyone bothered to finish reading their quotes from the Qur’an in context (what comes before and after each quote,) they would know it.
I would advise anyone reading these quotes to LOOK THEM UP. They are not what they appear to be.
CYA.
They know the attacks by fellow muslims are making them look like jackasses.
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CAIR condemns terrorism all the time. So does the PA in Israel. So do the Saudis. Means...squat.
BUMP
Well, watch and see and keep your powder dry.
I haven;t seen anything like come out in western European Muslim communities.
We all know what CAIR and the PA are and they have lost all credibility.
Preemptive strike so they can say, We have condemned this type of attack, after the next big man-made disaster.
Yep. Washing their hands. Something big is coming.
They probably realize that Obama will fall for it.
I agree that the ONLY way such a msg can even get heard in most of the Muslim world (although I doubt that any jihad terrorists will care) is with the appeal to protection of fellow Muslims.....
.... yes I’m glad to see any Imams anywhere taking a stand against jihad terrorism..... but I still have to wonder about both motives and effects/outcomes. I don’t trust their motives and I don’t expect it to have any effect on dissuading terrorists. Still, they (the Imams) may as well try!
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