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Grasping bankers bring back fears of class warfare (class warfare?)
The Times(UK) ^ | 12/27/09 | Irwin Stelzer

Posted on 12/27/2009 12:18:49 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Grasping bankers bring back fears of class warfare

Americans will remember 2009 as the year that class warfare reared its ugly head

Irwin Stelzer American Account

No sense in wasting too much of this year-end report on what you already know.

The financial sector is back from the brink. The largest banks have been able to raise capital and earnings sufficiently to repay their government bailout loans and have enough left over for generous bonuses. Share prices have recovered half the losses made since they peaked. Sales of existing homes are at close to a three-year high, but the sector has a glut of new homes. The job market is improving, but the unemployment rate is in double digits, and almost 40% of those out of work have been jobless for 27 weeks or longer. The American healthcare system is about to be placed under government control. Ben Bernanke is to be confirmed for another term as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board while he figures out when and how to drain liquidity from the system. And President Barack Obama, although still popular, has seen his popularity rating drop below that of Bill Clinton and George W Bush at this time in their presidential careers.

So much for what is obvious even to the casual observer. Less obvious are some important changes that are likely to be with us long after the current recession is history.

For years, perhaps decades to come, Americans will be whittling away at the mountain of debt the Obama administration has built. On the day before Christmas, immediately after passing the healthcare bill, the Senate joined the House in raising the debt ceiling so that the administration could borrow enough — $290 billion — to keep the government running, but only for a few months.

(Excerpt) Read more at business.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backlash; debt; economics; healthcare
Liberals going full steam with their agendas which would cost additional trillions of dollars of taxpayers' money, further destabilizing the already shaky dollar.

No wonder faithful establishment spinner like Irwin gets scared. Of course, to him, it would be only seen as a class warfare. However, when ruling elites are so out of control, should peons just sit quiet and say nothing?

1 posted on 12/27/2009 12:18:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/27/2009 12:19:22 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Actually, one way to reduce our debt is to sue England and Holland for bringing slaves to this country. The amount we sue for would be the cost of:

The Civil War

The Great Society

and every other spending program we have been dealing with in trying to provide for people who were affected by the European slave traders who profited from others' misery.

3 posted on 12/27/2009 12:21:39 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Actually, one way to reduce our debt is to sue England and Holland for bringing slaves to this country. The amount we sue for would be the cost of:

The Civil War

The Great Society

and every other spending program we have been dealing with in trying to provide for people who were affected by the European slave traders who profited from others' misery.

4 posted on 12/27/2009 12:21:39 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’ve had over three decades of class warfare and resulting corporate-socialism in the USA.


5 posted on 12/27/2009 12:43:11 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In the current world regime, the dollar must fall regardless of political policies. For example, we cannot continue to take both products and money from investors in South Korea. We must manufacture products at equal levels for trade, or the USA will default.


6 posted on 12/27/2009 12:45:45 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Bernard
Might be interesting just to see which hypocritical European elites owe their current wealth to Great Granddad Shacklesmen.

A bill for WWII might be in order as well...

7 posted on 12/27/2009 12:58:27 AM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Prince Barry Antoinette and his financial fairy statist say, what’s their problem, just let them spend more!

Both should recieve the Mussolini treatment in Times Square!


8 posted on 12/27/2009 3:27:27 AM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Anti-Utopian

South Korea for years of defense
Japan for years of defense
Germany for bases we have closed and handed over, plus years of defense


9 posted on 12/27/2009 5:33:01 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

First of a bunch of stuff in the beginning of the article is just bull crap the economy is not getting better. I don’t see any of this as class warfare I see what happened as Fascism by obama and the banks and people revolting.

It is NOT class warfare not to want to pay them billions of dollars for their Failure.

Why should we be expected to bear the losses while they privatized the profits and donated to people like obama and acorn and wanted to push climate gate.

Nonsense people should start pointing out what is really going on and that is our government has been captured and they have privatized the profits and socialized the losses and obama said his greatest accomplishment was the bailouts.

I have posted the payoffs over and over I hope people are starting to understand articles like this are nothing but propaganda to sway people from seeing the truth using the stigma of class warfare if anyone has used it is the too big to fail bankers against the citizens to further their continuing robbery of the taxpayers of the USA.

See payoff links here

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamas-greatest-accomplishment-keeps-costing-you-more-80085742.html

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/baracks-wall-street-problem-is-now-americas/

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?order=A

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/07/jpmorgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-donat.html

http://www.nlpc.org/stories/2009/12/07/goldman-sachs-challenged-embrace-global-warming-wake-%E2%80%98climategate%E2%80%99

http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-changes-its-status-to-financial-holding-company-2009-8

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/backdoor-bailouts-for-goldman-sachs/

http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimulus/item/stimulus-transparency-watchdogs-keep-contract-details-a-secret-813

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/02/will-cap-and-trade-be-the-next-bubble/

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/04/summers/

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/president-obamas-favorite-banker.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/business/19dimon.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/will_dems_allow_goldman_to_man.html

U.S.gave ve up billions in tax money in deal for Citigroup’s bailout repayment

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/15/AR2009121504534.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-citigroup-does-the-impossible-it-screws-us-taxpayers-again-2009-12

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/print

http://nlpc.org/stories/2009/12/07/goldman-sachs-challenged-embrace-global-warming-wake-%E2%80%98climategate%E2%80%99

http://nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/27/taxpayer-owned-citigroup-still-bankrolling-acorn

http://nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/21/bank-america-acorn-%E2%80%98partner%E2%80%99-and-major-funder

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-feigns-outrage-over-bonuses-then-approves-bailout-for-bonus-givers-Fannie-and-Freddie—80147272.html

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122202101.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-citigroup-does-the-impossible-it-screws-us-taxpayers-again-2009-12

motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/too-big-jail


10 posted on 12/27/2009 7:44:27 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
Right. This is a propaganda which cannot hide their latent fear nonetheless. They begin to feel that angry people could eventually come after skin, how much spin they dish out everyday.

Others are still steadfastly in denial or spouting garbage which they know are the boldfaced lie.

11 posted on 12/27/2009 7:51:28 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: FromLori

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obama_s-pick-for-man-of-the-year_-George-W_-Bush-8677553-79997637.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122202101.html?hpid=topnews


12 posted on 12/27/2009 8:05:35 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

About that fat bankers thing another load of crap

“It’s a p.r. stunt,” says an executive at one of the banks that will be getting a dressing-down at the White House meeting.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1947411,00.html#ixzz0auF64ELF


13 posted on 12/27/2009 8:11:19 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
>>should peons just sit quiet and say nothing?

Message from the peons to the "ruling elites":


Let them eat cake.
14 posted on 12/27/2009 10:27:24 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Bernard

[Actually, one way to reduce our debt is to sue England and Holland for bringing slaves to this country.]

Bump that!

“COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM”
—Thomas Jefferson

“Special Relationship My Arse”
—LomanBill


15 posted on 12/27/2009 10:30:25 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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