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Jim DeMint to Force a Vote on Constitutionality of the Individual Mandate
RedState ^ | December 22, 2009 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 12/22/2009 11:22:29 AM PST by bobsunshine

..Jim DeMint and John Ensign are going to force a vote on the issue. Democrats will be forced to take a position on whether or not the federal government can force individuals to buy products on pain of criminal penalty.

“I am incredibly concerned that the Democrats’ proposed individual mandate provision takes away too much freedom and choice from Americans across the country,” said Senator Ensign. “As an American, I felt the obligation to stand up for the individual freedom of every citizen to make their own decision on this issue. I don’t believe Congress has the legal authority to force this mandate on its citizens.”

“Forcing every American to purchase a product is absolutely inconsistent with our Constitution and the freedoms our Founding Fathers hoped to protect,” said Senator DeMint. “This is not at all like car insurance, you can choose not to drive but Americans will have no choice whether to buy government-approved insurance. This is nothing more than a bailout and takeover of insurance companies. We’re forcing Americans to buy insurance under penalty of law and then Washington bureaucrats will then dictate what these companies can sell to Americans. This is not liberty, it is tyranny of good intentions by elites in Washington who think they can plan our lives better than we can.”

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KEYWORDS: demint; lping; mandate; oathbreakers; obamacare
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To: patriotspride
I think I might prefer DeMint/Palin....

Then Palin can be the next Cheney with followthrough!...

61 posted on 12/22/2009 3:16:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: pissant

I just love it when supposed fellow Conservatives call others names. It’s a shame that folks can’t unite rather than harming the country with the likes of Obama and Co. by claiming to take the “high ground”. McCain wasn’t my first choice. I’m far from being a retard. I was able to see that McCain would be better than Obama anyday. If you remember it was Conservatives who put McCain in as the candidate with all their picking apart others. “Conservatives” elected Obama by in-fighting, staying at home, ect. Now who is the retard?


62 posted on 12/22/2009 3:27:08 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Not sure. But literally thousands of folks, all conservatives, warned all who would listen that nominating a RINO like Rudy McRomney would guarantee defeat. Maybe they’ll listen this time?


63 posted on 12/22/2009 3:29:05 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Palin as the new Dark Lord? Hmmmm. Interesting thought.


64 posted on 12/22/2009 3:30:17 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: noiseman

Well said. I think that Conservatives are, by nature, generally fairly polite folk who avoid gratuitous conflict, which is why most will just keep their mouths shut when confronted with leftist nonsense.

It’s time to stop being so polite, because our politeness is granting them tacit approval to strip our liberties.

We must challenge leftist nonsense whenever we see it, even if it means losing friends and alienating family.


65 posted on 12/22/2009 3:31:03 PM PST by Zeddicus
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To: oneamericanvoice

Darth Gorgeous.


66 posted on 12/22/2009 3:33:34 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: woodenickel

Tyranny bump


67 posted on 12/22/2009 3:42:10 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: pissant
If Hunter doesn’t run, I’m going to do everything I can to get DeMint to do so.

Love both of these fine patriots, but please... Neither has the national stature or charisma to draw enough center-right voters to them to win the Presidency.

Good news is that we have someone with the same excellent conservative credentials, executive experience, and the star power to win the election in 2012.

68 posted on 12/22/2009 3:48:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pissant

Same here. Whatever I’ve read about DeMint has consistently been good in my eyes.


69 posted on 12/22/2009 4:08:02 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: pabianice

Nonsense. The Repubs can’t force a vote on anything in this Senate.
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Sure they can. The others will vote ‘no’ to allow it to come to the floor...etc...just like voting...can be used IN THEIR FACE to futher the Constitutional concerns with all Americans everywhere.


70 posted on 12/22/2009 4:51:52 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So the Constitution is now up to a simple majority vote in the Senate?
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Not just that. Better than burying the USC is some dung heap like the RATS are doing...did you hear PelosLIE’s response to the CNS New correspondent who asked her if gubmint health care was provided for in the USC: “Are you serious? Are you serious?”

With that kind of backdrop, I think a vote in the Senate is warranted and will help to frame the Constitutional issue to the American people who are increasingly incensed by this.


71 posted on 12/22/2009 4:54:36 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Huck

And the Senate that passed it is going to vote on the question? Absurd. It’s like having the wolves vote on whether or not the sheep are lunch or not.
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They’ll vote not to vote on the motion, and we’ll trumpet that.

The Democrat party doesn’t care what the US Constitution has to say.


72 posted on 12/22/2009 4:57:08 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: bobsunshine

Why not? Most states already force by law people to buy car insurance.


73 posted on 12/22/2009 4:57:42 PM PST by Sofia
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To: bobsunshine

Well, it better be by amendment, since Dingy Harry will never let a vote on this subject come to the floor by any other means.


74 posted on 12/22/2009 4:58:39 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Huck

The only thing I can think of is that DeMint wants them on record stating that they believe this is Constitutional. Other than that it’s pointless. The dems are absolutely drunk with power coupled with insanity which makes this whole thing very dangerous.


75 posted on 12/22/2009 5:03:24 PM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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To: Eagle Eye

This vote will never happen.
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Even their refusal to vote, or voting down this motion, can be trumpeted as a vote against considering the Constitutionality of the individual mandate in Socialism 2010 (the ‘health care’ bill.)


76 posted on 12/22/2009 5:04:00 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: bobsunshine
It will never stand the Contitutional Muster. Yes get the SCOTUS involved. Love it, great play GOP you may get this thing killed after all. If all the Democrats do vote for the contitutionality of it then we need an injunction before Obama can sign it so that it can be reviewed by the SCOTUS. It is in fact a form of Modern Day SLAVERY. Obama should know better, but I digress...
77 posted on 12/22/2009 5:05:04 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Eric Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our justice system.)
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To: raybbr

The only thing I can think of is that DeMint wants them on record stating that they believe this is Constitutional. Other than that it’s pointless.
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Demint is fighting in both the press and procedurally, which is a heck of a lot more than most Rs are doing right now...and *that* is NOT POINTLESS.


78 posted on 12/22/2009 5:05:20 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: bobsunshine

Here is more ....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/22/health-care-face-string-legal-challenges/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528FOXNews.com+-+Politics%2529


79 posted on 12/22/2009 5:05:42 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Eric Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our justice system.)
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To: white17x
I guess I need some explanation. Just because 60 people vote to say it is constitutional, how does that make it so ? I don’t have much faith in a civil war in the courts.

Up until Marshall dictated Judicial Review out of thin air, all of the branches of the federal government had the responsibility to determine whether something was Constitutional.

Of course the Congress should question itself while writing a law, "Is what we are writing Constitutional?"

POTUS can refuse to sign a bill for the same reason.

But now nobody cares. Bush even signed a law which he said he thought should be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Sad.

80 posted on 12/22/2009 5:05:46 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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