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Hijacking dry run testimony mounts (Airtran Flight 297)
World Net Daily ^ | 12.10.2009 | Michael Carl

Posted on 12/10/2009 3:13:28 PM PST by cyn

Cover-up hinted as case recalls 'flying imams'

Evidence that an incident on an Air Tran flight from Atlanta to Houston could have been a "dry run" for a possible hijacking is mounting, with analysts hinting at a cover-up because of an airline gag order on employees and more witnesses coming forward to say they were afraid.

The airline, meanwhile, is sticking to its prepared statements that there was an issue with a passenger and a cell phone but the matter is considered closed. ...

Charges of suppressed information now are being leveled.

"Two and a half weeks later, the incident is in high dispute, thanks to some passengers who have spoken out on the Internet about what they say is a cover-up by Air Train and other transportation officials," Marietta, Ga., columnist Laura Armstrong wrote.

Passenger Brent Brown told WSB-TV in Atlanta that the situation was "extremely intense."

"I've never experienced anything like that," Brown, a security consultant and a frequent flier, told the station.

He described how the men of "Middle Eastern" descent started walking the aisles, using their cell phones and refusing flight attendants' instructions to sit down.

Another case?

Meanwhile, a second similar incident has been related to WND by an airline employee who has asked her company to investigate. She insisted on anonymity until she gets a response. ...

Protection mode

Doug Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, said Air Tran appears to be trying to protect itself.

"Air Tran didn't follow the specific TSA procedures for reporting incidents. The crew called in the incident as a possible safety or security problem. The airline treated it like it was a customer service matter," he said.


(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; airlinesecurity; airtran; airtranflight297; flight297; flyingimams; tsa
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Interviews with Keith Robinson and Brent Brown; similarities and tie-ins with other incidents including the 'flying imams'.
1 posted on 12/10/2009 3:13:34 PM PST by cyn
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To: cyn

Exactly what would be the point of this “dry run”...to talk on cell phones and be annoying?

That’s really all they did.

They were just jerks, and I think that’s all it was.


2 posted on 12/10/2009 3:15:46 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: cyn; All
Those Muslim agitators were angling for a "lawfare" suit, pure and simple...if it were a dry run for a hijacking, they would not have made such a spectacle out of themselves just as the plane was departing the gate.

Islamist Lawfare

3 posted on 12/10/2009 3:18:10 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cyn

My bet is TSA called DHS and DHS said “a dry run did not happen, and we never had this conversation”.


4 posted on 12/10/2009 3:20:28 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: rwfromkansas

“...Imam Abdul Makin and a leading Muslim lawyer have supported the killing and raping of non-Muslims, declaring all non-Muslims as guilty and subject to lethal abuse.”

The Air Tran flight hasn’t been the only one to happen. Airlines and TSA are trying to keep a lid on what is developing, both here and abroad.

Five Americans were arrested in Pakistan. They were there to be trained as jihadis. The group who was going to train them in terrorism is the same group that murdered Daniel Pearl.

Really, I believe this is more than just being ‘jerks’.


5 posted on 12/10/2009 3:21:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: cyn

Here is an email that received recently:


I, Gene Hackemack, received this email from my good friend Tedd Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral Buoyancy Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with. Tedd happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to Houston .

In my opinion, the muslims are all getting very brave now, since they have one of their own in the white house......read Tedd’s story below.

Semper Fi
Gene Hackemack

PS...can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct that they are afraid to report that these were all muslims...unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.

One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.

This was NOT what happened.

I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not there.

The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now….they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her. (don’t ask me….I don’t make the rules, but I’ve studied) The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said “shut up infidel dog!” She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say “I got your back.” I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said “you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!” As I “led” him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, “You WILL do the same!” He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage.

We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston . The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent “we and our crew will not fly this plane!” After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.

Again…..this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked “What the hell is going on!?!?” I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said “I’m getting off this plane”. The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (now I’m mad!) I said “I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who’s time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I’m going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!” And I heard a voice behind me say “so am I”. Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.

Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston .

If this wasn’t a dry run, I don’t know what one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.

I’m telling this to you because I want you to know….
The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes….

-Tedd


6 posted on 12/10/2009 3:22:47 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: rwfromkansas
Exactly what would be the point of this “dry run”...to talk on cell phones and be annoying?

At the very least, to ascertain crew and passenger reactions to what they were doing. To see what they could get away with before anyone took action.

Eight years ago at this time, passengers would have tackled these guys and Air Marshals would have them in cuffs before the crew had finished reporting what was taking place.

7 posted on 12/10/2009 3:25:59 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

That’s an excellent point, too. Draw a punch and sue for big bucks. Launder the money and Jihadis are in clover.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 3:27:30 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: TexasRepublic

Just wow! That’s pretty compelling stuff, and I’m glad that Texas stood up to those Islamo-creeps.


9 posted on 12/10/2009 3:30:32 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cyn

They want their free money

Just like everyone else in America.


10 posted on 12/10/2009 3:31:24 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: rwfromkansas

jerks that will probably never be allowed on an airplane again. Hope it was worth it.


11 posted on 12/10/2009 3:36:33 PM PST by RDTF (How can you have a terrorist sympathizer counseling soldiers coming back from killing terrorists??)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Thank God for Texas.

Doing what no one else had the guts to do.


12 posted on 12/10/2009 3:37:46 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Exactly what would be the point of this “dry run”...to talk on cell phones and be annoying?

Speaking of jerks, don't be one!

Doesn't take a lot of IQ power to realize that being able to move around the cabin with impunity, and ignoring the attendant's directions, is a great advantage to a******s planning to take over an aircraft.

Waiting for the official announcement, "Everybody stay in your seats!" by hijackers, is not the most rational approach to self-defense.

13 posted on 12/10/2009 3:41:21 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Lol

Do you honestly believe that letter?


14 posted on 12/10/2009 3:42:20 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32; Virginia Ridgerunner

“Do you honestly believe that letter?”

I Googled around to find out. There is considerable controvsery whether it is genuine. If not, I apologize for posting it.


15 posted on 12/10/2009 3:47:57 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: cyn
What are the odds of my flying Air Trans on any portion of a cross country flight?

After reading this story, essentially zero.

If most Americans feel similarly, I sense a bankruptcy really really soon.

16 posted on 12/10/2009 3:48:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: TexasRepublic

That’s the email that started it all, the one that had us checking the internet for more information and to see what Snopes had on it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2399187/posts

But Petruna now says he meant that email only for a circle of friends and that certain parts were exaggerated.

As passenger Brent Brown says, there is no need to embellish an already incredible tale!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2404615/posts


17 posted on 12/10/2009 3:51:47 PM PST by cyn (“Courage is not the absence of fear, but the mastery of it." Mark Twain)
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To: Candor7

Update on the Air Tran flight 297 story.


18 posted on 12/10/2009 4:33:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: RDTF
jerks that will probably never be allowed on an airplane again. Hope it was worth it.

Just the opposite. They were escorted back onto the plane. Just like the "Flying Imams" they will now be that much harder to remove from a flight due to the fear of lawsuits and hate crimes charges.

19 posted on 12/10/2009 4:46:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: cyn

Even if this wasn’t a dry run, these idiots LIKE to see Americans uncomfortable and afraid and better yet, terrorized.

An airplane is not the place to be playing their monkey boy bad games on Americans. Boot their butts off the plane the minute they open their jerkface mouths!


20 posted on 12/10/2009 4:50:34 PM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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