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UNREAL. Obama May Allow US Soldiers to be Tried in the Hague
Gateway Pundit ^ | 11/28/09 | Gateway Pundit

Posted on 11/27/2009 9:08:57 PM PST by American Dream 246

Unreal. Team Obama may allow US soldiers to be tried in the Hague for war crimes. The Wall Street Journal reported, via Jihad Watch:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed “great regret” in August that the U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC). This has fueled speculation that the Obama administration may reverse another Bush policy and sign up for what could lead to the trial of Americans for war crimes in The Hague.

The ICC’s chief prosecutor, though, has no intention of waiting for Washington to submit to the court’s authority. Luis Moreno Ocampo says he already has jurisdiction—at least with respect to Afghanistan.

Because Kabul in 2003 ratified the Rome Statute—the ICC’s founding treaty—all soldiers on Afghan territory, even those from nontreaty countries, fall under the ICC’s oversight, Mr. Ocampo told me. And the chief prosecutor says he is already conducting a “preliminary examination” into whether NATO troops, including American soldiers, fighting the Taliban may have to be put in the dock.

“We have to check if crimes against humanity, war crimes or genocide have been committed in Afghanistan,” Mr. Ocampo told me. “There are serious allegations against the Taliban and al Qaeda and serious allegations about warlords, even against some who are connected with members of the government.” Taking up his inquiry of Allied soldiers, he added, “there are different reports about problems with bombings and there are also allegations about torture.”

It was clear who the targets of these particular inquiries are but the chief prosecutor shied away from spelling it out.

Asked repeatedly whether the examination of bombings and torture allegations refers to NATO and U.S. soldiers, Mr. Ocampo finally stated that “we are investigating whoever commits war crimes, including the group you mentioned.”


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To: skr
Is the WH administration not paying any attention at all to how people feel about granting terrorists civilian trials??

DC is ignoring the opinions of the wise and true patriotic Americans on every issue. The truth is that the nincompoops and leftists are into taking every advantage while they're the majority.

Threats of being kicked out of office have little or no effect, and, in truth, some know they will be re-elected.

They are spitting in our faces and with every day/week, it gets worse.

The tea parties haven't stopped them. What will?

481 posted on 11/29/2009 4:17:18 PM PST by IIntense
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
...if our soldiers said enough is enough.

Oh how I wish they would! So far, the signs show that conservatives have no intentions of revolting against this evil gov't. What does it take to start a revolution? If, by chance, it came about, would the military take sides with the American people, in many cases, their own families?

Any opinions?

482 posted on 11/29/2009 4:37:42 PM PST by IIntense
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To: American Dream 246
Obama, your duty is to

SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES,

you unAmerican POS.
483 posted on 11/29/2009 5:14:34 PM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It is not marxism -- it is communism!
Same difference.

If true, then say COMMUNISM!!! Do your own survey -- most folks DO NOT know what marxism or a marxist is. I've been doing "on the street" type interviews of folks 16-88. Not one of them could articulate what marxism is and only a few knew who Marx was. Some of the older people had at least a Master's degree.

That was my point. We call them liberals, progressives, marxists, left wing -- they are damn COMMUNISTS! Call them what they are! Until we consistently call them what they are, we lose.

I still hate commies

484 posted on 11/29/2009 5:16:12 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: RWGinger

“Officers in our military do not have to follow all orders.”

Correct. They swear to obey all LAWFUL orders.


485 posted on 11/29/2009 5:17:07 PM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: NFHale

Obama should be tried in the Hague.


486 posted on 11/29/2009 5:46:52 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Just A Nobody

“That was my point. We call them liberals, progressives, marxists, left wing — they are damn COMMUNISTS! Call them what they are! Until we consistently call them what they are, we lose.”

You are sadly correct. The average schmo has never heard of Karl Marx. It is even worse with the word “socialism”. If you don’t call Obama a communist, most of the American public will stare at you blank faced. Thank you NEA for 40 years of “dumbing down” America!


487 posted on 11/29/2009 5:51:35 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: bustinchops

I didn’t threaten to revolt.

I warned that if this comes to pass, we will be moving towards a revolt.


488 posted on 11/29/2009 6:08:47 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: melancholy
Maybe we should learn something from Turkey. There is an army general or a military commission that will warn then remove anyone or any government and declare a new FREE election, if the Turkish Constitution is violated. Including but not limited to, removing clerics or Islamic fundamentalists interfering with or threatening the secular government.

For our peace and tranquility, this type of plague shouldn’t be allowed again, ever. We have a lot of work to do just to rid ourselves of the traitors bestowed on us by our ignorant, idiotic fellow American ACORNers.


Exactly. I often wonder what our Founding Fathers would think of our current situation? They were bright men, but it seems like they did not foresee someone like an Obama or the mechanism we have to use is broken, one or the other.
489 posted on 11/29/2009 6:35:13 PM PST by Nowhere Man (The night they drove old America down (11-07-2009))
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To: American Dream 246

Exactly. I’m not against a safety net at all but it should be a hand up, not hand up and run by the individual States, not the Federal Government.


490 posted on 11/29/2009 6:37:47 PM PST by Nowhere Man (The night they drove old America down (11-07-2009))
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To: melancholy
Peaceful, sustained, huge demonstrations are the best civilians could do for now.

Now, is now over. Time for the next step.

I don’t put a lot of stock in the 2010 election unless we prevent the administration from ACORNing it!

THAT will not happen!
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AF1 flying zoo of apes, communists and perverts.

LOL! Most excellent description!!!

(Quick quiz for ya; who fits like a glove in all three categories? If you get the answer right, you win a banana, which is good for an ape and the new flag of the newest banana republic!)

To clarify -- are the three catagories apes, commies and perverts???

If 0b0z0 is so transparent and has nothing to hide, WHERE ARE HIS RECORDS, ALL OF THEM?????

He LIES!!! He does not have a transparent bone in his body. He knows he can say anything and his mesmerized sychophants will swallow it all -- hook line and sinker.

I add my voice to yours, too much apathy and PC will kill us all

It's doing a hell of a job of it, isn't it? Pirates are untrained teens, terrorism has become random acts of man-made disaster, Overseas Contingency Operation has replace the War on Terror, some damn jihadist massacres our troops in their own "home" and he is some pre-ptsd victim.....

On such a nice Sunday, I’m actually dismayed about having to write about the plague that our fellow “Americans” bestowed on our beloved UNIQUE country!

I'm really sorry about that. Perhaps I should have waited until tomorrow to ping you. ;*)

Steam coming out of my ears!!

Oh NOES! You'll be arrested for contributing to the glo-BULL warming hoax!

491 posted on 11/29/2009 7:47:24 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
It is even worse with the word “socialism”.

I'm not too sure about that. Many are more aware of what socialism is all about, but they think it is a good thing!

If you don’t call Obama a communist, most of the American public will stare at you blank faced.

Exactly! Calling him all the PC names makes no dent at all.

Thank you NEA for 40 years of “dumbing down” America!

Yes, but parents have played a role as well. My parents made sure I knew what communism was at home. Everything wasn't left to the schools. I spoke at length to a father of kids from 7-17 last night. Believe me when I say his kids know what it is as well and it has caused more than a few problems at school.

We need to get back to basics -- personal responsibility, and the idea that parents, not schools or government, are responsible for raising their children would be a good start.

492 posted on 11/29/2009 8:12:39 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: RWGinger
"How ould WE stop them from trying our military in an ICC court?"

How did we stop the British? To quote the honorable Rev. Manning, "people aren't going to take it anymore." We Americans are tough people. We are nice to a fault but we can be pushed too far. How far is too far? I think baraq o bamah is trying to find out but I can tell you this. The media isn't going to be able to keep spinning the reports of our military personnel allegedly committing war crimes while whitewashing the terrorist attacks taking place on our own soil. Attacks like the one today that witness 4 law enforcement officers gunned down in cold blood. Those officers have families and friends and those people aren't going to keep lying down and taking it.
What will be the shot heard round the world this time? I wake up every morning and wonder if "today is the day."

493 posted on 11/29/2009 8:19:10 PM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: IIntense

I don’t think anyone can know for sure.. until\if it happens.


494 posted on 11/29/2009 8:27:00 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: Just A Nobody
To clarify -- are the three catagories apes, commies and perverts???

Absolutely. Another hint, he's married to an apess (new word to add to this era's lexicon!), equipped fitted with a huge derriere and wears a boob fence made out of some rusty junkyard metal, which doubles up as a restraining ring fitted with a quick coupling that hooks to a special cage installed on AF1. Nope, I ain't a racist. Just the facts, Ma'am!

You'll be arrested for contributing to the glo-BULL warming hoax!

LOL! 0b0z0ids should give me a medal for contributing to energy independence!

495 posted on 11/29/2009 8:36:58 PM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: The Anti-One
What will be the shot heard round the world this time?

A huge 0b0zoid fart when The One is woken up by ICE and dropped in the jungles of Kenya like a sack of rotten potatoes.

Pardon my graphic description of the impending biological bomb!

496 posted on 11/29/2009 8:49:11 PM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: IIntense; bustinchops; USALiberty; Nowhere Man; HKMk23

http://www.eutimes.net/2009/11/obama-orders-1-million-us-troops-to-prepare-for-civil-war/


497 posted on 11/29/2009 9:07:19 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: melancholy
ROTFLOL! Then I guessed correctly, but I had to be sure.

should give me a medal for contributing to energy independence!

Ha! Perhaps that is why they are working so hard to keep us all ticked off everyday in everyway...we produce steam!

498 posted on 11/29/2009 10:26:19 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
WHOA!!!

And to Obama’s “last ditch gambit”, these reports continue, he is to announce in a nationwide address to his people this coming week that he is going to expand the level of US Military Forces in Afghanistan by tens of thousands of troops, while at the same time using the deployment of these soldiers as a “cover” for returning to the United States over 200,000 additional American soldiers from the over 800 bases in over 39 countries they have stationed around the Globe bringing the level of these forces in America to over 1 million, a number the US Military believes will be able to contain the “explosion of violence” expected to roil these peoples when they learn their economy has been bankrupted.

499 posted on 11/29/2009 10:32:46 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: concretebob

Maybe we should.


500 posted on 11/29/2009 11:18:11 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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