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Darwin’s Dilemma: Evolutionary Elite Choose Censorship over Scientific Debate
CNS News ^ | October 14, 2009 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 10/16/2009 12:51:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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1 posted on 10/16/2009 12:51:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/16/2009 12:52:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Watched the ARDI thing on DSC Channel.
Seems Humans didn’t evolve from MONKEYS (who knew)
I found it interesting that they have found even older remains.
I guess when they finally get far enough back, God will say..Oh ye of little faith.


3 posted on 10/16/2009 1:10:59 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: GodGunsGuts

GGG, if you had done just a little research you would have seen that the cancellation of Darwin’s Dilemma was due to the fact that the Discovery Institute violated the rental agreement by issuing this press release http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS135002+05-Oct-2009+PRN20091005 without obtaining the necessary approval from the California Science Center.

PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS:
It is required that the Event Services Office approve, for technical and factual accuracy, all promotional materials mentioning the California Science Center produced for your event (including invitations, programs, press releases, etc.) prior to printing or broadcast. Please allow sufficient time for this approval.

http://www.californiasciencecenter.org/GenInfo/EventServices/PoliciesAndProcedures/PoliciesAndProcedures.php

So since they violated the contract that they signed the event was cancelled. No censorship here, just the usual distortion, and misdirection.

But why lets the fact’s get in the way of a good story? Doesn’t the 9th commandment say something about bearing false witness?


4 posted on 10/16/2009 1:14:23 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, ThereÂ’s a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Steve Jones, in his "Darwin's Ghost," writes:

"The Cambrian explosion, so called, is a failure of the geological record rather than of the Darwinian machine. Its radical new groups reflect not a set of exceptional events, but something more banal: the first appearance of animals with parts capable of preservation. Before then, there were soft creatures that decayed as soon as they died. Why shells appeared all of a sudden is not certain. Perhaps the first predators evolved and drove their prey to don expensive armor, or perhaps a surge of oxygen enabled animals to grow large enough to need a skeleton. Whatever the reason, the Cambrian marks the origin of a fossil record, rather than of modern life."

Jones goes on to write:

"A few discoveries from an unknown land prove that biology's supposed preface, the Cambrian, is in fact well into its plot. So deficient was the evidence of earlier times that nobody guessed it was there. Single celled creatures stretch back even further. The balance of isotopes in carbon trapped in Greenland rocks three-thousand eight hundred million years old resembles that of the modern bacteria that live on methane. They evolved when Earth was in its infancy and show that it took several times longer to develop a cell with a nucleus than it did for life to appear."

5 posted on 10/16/2009 1:15:17 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Ira_Louvin

You should study the 9th Commandment a little more carefully, and then look in the mirror. It was not the Discovery Institute that was putting the even on, it was the American Freedom Alliance.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 1:24:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Why the outrage? Isn’t there academic freedom to express scientific viewpoints that dissent from the evolutionary “consensus”? “

of course not, you have to ask?

THEY are evolved and have all wisdom and knowledge now.
You are not allowed to have public dissent in their
sanctuaries.

ampu


7 posted on 10/16/2009 1:36:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: GodGunsGuts
That does not change the fact that the event was cancelled due to a clear violation of the contract and not due to censorship, but nice try at misdirection.

You really should pay attention, I have already advised you that the misdirection, avoidance, and ridicule will not work.

8 posted on 10/16/2009 1:36:16 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, ThereÂ’s a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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I wonder if any other event ever got cancelled because of this kind of thing. It it's happened in the past but no cancellation ensured, then that would imply that there was some political "stuff" going on in this case.

:::shrug::: I just don't care enough to research that, so I guess we'll never know.

9 posted on 10/16/2009 1:36:20 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Ira, you really ought to follow your own advice. Otherwise, people might think you’re a hypocrite or something.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 1:38:36 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

What violation was that, Ira?


11 posted on 10/16/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Ping!"

Beep!

12 posted on 10/16/2009 1:42:23 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: GodGunsGuts

I guess you did not fully read my first post. So I will go over it again for you.

This press release was issued: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS135002+05-Oct-2009+PRN20091005 Without approval thus violating this clause of the rental contract:

PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS:

It is required that the Event Services Office approve, for technical and factual accuracy, all promotional materials mentioning the California Science Center produced for your event (including invitations, programs, press releases, etc.) prior to printing or broadcast. Please allow sufficient time for this approval.
http://www.californiasciencecenter.org/GenInfo/EventServices/PoliciesAndProcedures/PoliciesAndProcedures.php

The press release states “Intelligent Design Documentary to Premiere at Smithsonian Affiliated California Science Center” and the contract states that all promotional materials mentioning the California Science Center must be approved prior to printing or broadcast. This press release was not approved.

Is that clear enough for you? See no censorship just a violation of a signed rental contract.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 1:52:34 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, ThereÂ’s a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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See no censorship? ...maybe, maybe not. Perhaps you missed this qualifying statement from the ID proponents wishing to air the film;

Here we see the the ID'ers admitting they're guessing as to underlying motive. Personally, I think they have a point, regardless of the technicality.

If you are arguing that the contract technicality itself, is the full and complete story, I'd guess you might do well selling used cars, or in a government job, or in politics??? Aim High! --- like the saying goes...you show promise! /s

14 posted on 10/16/2009 2:17:11 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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Did the D.I. issue the press release?

Was the press release approved?

Does the rental contract not state that all promotional materials require approval prior to printing or broadcast?

Do the id/creationists/cdesign proponentsist have a separate set of rules from everybody else wishing to rent this space?


15 posted on 10/16/2009 2:26:20 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, ThereÂ’s a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

It looks very much like the press release was from the Discovery Institute not The Freedom Alliance. so who contracted for the showing?


16 posted on 10/16/2009 2:26:57 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Can’t have any of that intelligence stuff allowed, now, can we?


17 posted on 10/16/2009 2:30:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Darwin’s Dilemma: Evolutionary Elite Choose Censorship over Scientific Debate

LMAO... what a crock of horse shi-.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 2:31:29 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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Evos sure would know that when they see it, wouldn’t they?


19 posted on 10/16/2009 2:32:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
The Freedom Alliance is a separate entity incorporated in California and it appears they signed the contract.
From their web site: Non Profit Status
American Freedom Alliance is incorporated in the State of California as a nonprofit public benefit corporation. It is a non profit organization under Section 501 (c) 3 of the Internal Revenue Code. Contributions to AFA are tax deductible under Section 170 of the Code. EID 68-0643445.

So how can a press release from a third party violate a contract between the California Science Center and The Freedom Alliance?

20 posted on 10/16/2009 2:33:44 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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