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VIDEO: Obama: GOP Opposed To Health Care To Stop Dem "Victory"
Real Clear Politics ^ | August 20, 2009 | Real Clear Politics

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by ianschwartz

President Barack Obama said "early on" the GOP decided to oppose health care reform so Democrats wouldn't have a victory and to win 2010 midterm elections.

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1 posted on 08/20/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by ianschwartz
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oddly enough if the dems pass this health care crap it help the repubs win next year.


2 posted on 08/20/2009 11:06:58 AM PDT by madamemayhem (i don't like repeat offenders, i like dead offenders.)
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I oppose it because it is a direct assault in individual liberty. I think that is its purpose.

HRC (health care reform) is not just about rationing. It's about the end of all individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist basic human right to health care spreads throughout the system like a virus.

Congressman Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves who must serve that right for the sick and injured. If health care is a basic human right, as Weiner says, then no health care worker can refuse to provide it, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's rights.

That means that the health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to get health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others.

It may not be stated in any of the bills that patient's rights to care supersede a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. His view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

3 posted on 08/20/2009 11:08:03 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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It’s real simple, Obama. The people don’t want government run healthcare.


4 posted on 08/20/2009 11:09:04 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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No bambi, stopping dems is just a fringe benefit. We really do not want socialism, but I can see why you think we might what with so many socialist RINO’s out and about.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 11:09:06 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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“President Barack Obama said “early on” the GOP decided to oppose health care reform so Democrats wouldn’t have a victory and to win 2010 midterm elections”

Mommy Mommy!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!


6 posted on 08/20/2009 11:10:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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7 posted on 08/20/2009 11:14:06 AM PDT by kanawa
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Obama and the Dems are their own worst enemies.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 11:15:15 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: ianschwartz
With the democrats holding the Presidency, the House, and a filibuster proof Senate, the Republicans couldn't stop this from happening.
9 posted on 08/20/2009 11:15:38 AM PDT by Teotwawki (Obama was right about one thing, I am clinging to my Bible and my gun.)
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To: ianschwartz
Here it is demonstrated again that the Democrats (the liberal ones at least) see everything as politics or politically charged.

It would never occur to them that the American people oppose this on principle, nah...they're just trying to screw us (Dems) out of re-election.

10 posted on 08/20/2009 11:15:38 AM PDT by AreaMan
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no death panels?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204683204574358590107981718.html

Remember when the little Caesar tried to make our wounded warriors pay for their own medical needs resulting from war injuries - use their private insurance? that got blown out of the water fast - but don’t think for a minute they won’t sneak it - and a lot more - back in if they get this 1000+ page behemoth passed.


11 posted on 08/20/2009 11:15:44 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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You’re TOTALLY right Obama! The public is just screaming and begging for this reform. We can’t wait, please save us? You don’t need those nasty ole republicans. This idea is SO popular, if you pass it without their support you’ll see nothing but victory after victory from here on out!

Promise.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 11:21:08 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: ianschwartz

Gawd, does the man never stop whining or lying?


13 posted on 08/20/2009 11:22:04 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: freekitty
To me it's even simpler than that. I want government out of EVERY aspect of my life. I want it to go back to the more limited roll it had at the turn of the 19th century or so. And I want it to stop pending every penny it can get its hands on or borrow or print. Health care is just the tip of the iceberg. My message to government is go away!
14 posted on 08/20/2009 11:22:56 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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I agree.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 11:23:55 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TigersEye

Excellent post!

The Republicans should concentrate on ‘Value Creation’ (see Mackey Whole Foods for instance). The Consumer directly involved with the Insurance Companies demanding ‘Value’!
The Democrats or ‘Progressives’ perpetuate the ‘Value Capture’ system or ‘Stealing from each other’! The “progressives” don’t realize yet that ‘They have run out of our Money!’.
Gone Galt!


16 posted on 08/20/2009 11:27:53 AM PDT by griswold3
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The list, ping


17 posted on 08/20/2009 11:28:42 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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The Republicans don’t have enough votes to even slow the Dems down.

It’s the Dems who have the problem.


18 posted on 08/20/2009 11:28:55 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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19 posted on 08/20/2009 11:30:31 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Obama's New
Senior Citizen Health Czar
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20 posted on 08/20/2009 11:33:40 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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