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(D-WA) Baird reverses course on town hall meetings (Protesters not brownshirts)
Tacoma News Tribune ^ | 8/13/2009

Posted on 08/13/2009 12:51:36 PM PDT by markomalley

Washington state Congressman Brian Baird is apologizing for his criticism of raucous town-hall meetings on health care, and is now scheduling some in-person meetings of his own.

The Vancouver Democrat recently said people disrupting other town halls were exhibiting a “lynch mob mentality” and “close to Brownshirt tactics,” a reference to Nazi stormtroopers.

But in a statement Wednesday, Baird says he was wrong to use those words. He also called for a more civil debate on health care, and said he’s going to hold five town-hall meetings.

In his statement, he calls himself a “huge advocate” of town halls.

“Frankly, I have had concerns about how we can have constructive dialogue and, unfortunately, in response to some of the things we’ve been seeing across the nation I have said some things myself that I regret,” he said. “I want to express that regret directly and announce that we will be holding a series of five town halls so people can express their opinions and ask questions.”

The first meeting will be Tuesday at Skyview High School in Vancouver.


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To: muawiyah
I think it is time to get a good idea of what Fascism and Nazi-ism (National Socialism) are:

From http://open-encyclopedia.com/Fascism

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

... The only purpose of the government under fascism proper was to value itself as the highest priority to its culture in just being the state in itself, the larger scope of which, the better...

... The Nazi movement spoke of class-based society as the enemy, and wanted to unify the racial element above established classes. The Fascist movement, on the other hand, sought to preserve the class system and uphold it as the foundation of established and desirable culture...

...Fascism rejects the central tenets of Marxism, which are class struggle, and the need to replace capitalism with a society run by the working class in which the workers own the means of production. ...

[Fascism includes] capitalism ... This was a new capitalist system, however, one in which the state seized control of the organization of vital industries.

Many would argue that the bullet points 1 & 4 eliminate Dear Leader and the current collection of America's super-liberals from consideration of being either National Socialist (Nazi) or Fascist. However, I offer the following counter argument.

Dear Leader President Obama has made it clear that he considers every country in the world equal to the United States. He desires we have the same legal system, and all his policies are clearly aiming to bring other countries and the United States under similar guidelines. He would love nothing more than to be able to unify the world into one nation. I consider him to be a "world nationalist"- someone who believes everything possible should be done to eliminate national boundaries and differences. Clearly, Dear Leader and the other major Democrat leaders are socialist, but this brings up the following, from the same source: http://open-encyclopedia.com/Communism

In terms of socio-economic systems, communism and socialism are two different things. For example, socialism involves the existence of a state, while communism does not...[and] abolishes private ownership altogether.

The super-liberals, including those who are currently running congress, plus Dear Leader, have been pushing CapNTax, ObamaCare, apologies to everyone, making nice with those who are sworn enemies, international law, etc.. In nearly EVERY area of our culture or economy that these socialists have been pushing most fervently, they push for a leveling of the US with other nations, and attempt to remove national differences and boundaries, as well as control of individual thought and behavior. I will NOT include such items as "free trade" in those programs, as it is clearly arguable that there are major economic benefits.

The "state" for these socialists is clearly "the whole world". This would fit into the definition of communist, except that they have NO DESIRE to eliminate "classes" of people, or that the state OWN business- they only wish to CONTROL business and not be bothered by it, and they don't mind that their favored elites are billionaires, just as in fascism.

Dear Leader (and these others) should be considered either a one-world Fascist or something new: a CommuFascist.

21 posted on 08/14/2009 11:08:58 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: KarlInOhio

Hopefully, the public will see what is so obvious to us -

these guys STILL believe what they said,
but they found out that they weren’t going to
be able to bully their way out of this one.


22 posted on 08/14/2009 11:12:56 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: BFM

(23) The plan you arrive at had better be good. If it’s good, then you will also explain that Congress will be signing on to the same plan. It is that good. If Congress believes that they still need their own special plan, you had better have one VERY GOOD explanation for why that would be.


23 posted on 08/15/2009 8:55:21 PM PDT by Zarro (Term Limits NOW)
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