Posted on 06/14/2009 2:32:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
O is “happy” he has another “robust debate” on his hands.
You said — Don’t worry, America has been in “death throes” numerous times. So have Jews.
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I’m confident, in this instance, that the only thing that is going to get the Jews out of their death throes is going to be the coming of the Messiah of Israel, otherwise, they are just as sunk as we are.
That’s not an argument for the destruction of Israel, but — rather — for the soon coming of the Messiah... :-)
I appreciate your replies to Matthew Weaver. I suggest that he read “Exodus” by Leon Uris and also “The Haj” by Leon Uris for two excellent historical novels about Israel and their relationship with the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world. There are many good books about Israel, but Matthew must certainly include the Bible.
Some quotes by a remarkable woman, Golda Meir, the 4th Prime Minister of Israel:
We will have peace when Arabs love their children more then they hate us.”
We have always said that in our war with the Arabs we had a secret weapon - no alternative.
The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well fight.
Not being beautiful was the true blessing. Not being beautiful forced me to develop my inner resources. The pretty girl has a handicap to overcome.
For more about Ms. Meir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir
Israel doesn’t need to buy weapons from America. They have our current blueprints and the technological know-how to build advanced weaponry.
Furthermore, there are other highly skilled and technically advanced nations in the world that would be happy to work out an arrangement with Israel. An arrangement such as inviting the IMI to open armament factories in their country to build weapons for Israel... and to sell.
Countries like India, Russia, China, Brazil. (though, China and Russia are risky with their disregard for ownership and property rights)
And you also make the fatal mistake of thinking that the US foreign aid given to Israel is their whole military budget. Or for that matter, a majority of their budget.
You really have a point as without God the Jews would have been wiped out long ago.
He is the Messiah...that's part of the job description.
In reply to you and another writer, I do find Israel as a “Jewish state” undemocratic, oppressive, and by its very nature a bloody failure. Yes, I actually do question Israel’s ‘right to exist’ as a Jewish state. It’d be the same if we in the US allowed a religious group redefine the country as, for example, a Baptist state, then expected everybody to conform. It wouldn’t happen any more than Israel’s attempt to make a Jewish state upon land of mixed religions. It is bloody now, and will be worse as long as the current regime imposes itself upon Christian and Muslim—seizing lands, and worse. Yes, it is Christians being oppressed just as much as Muslim, even if not getting the same headlines. Israel practices apartheid and can only survive through ethnic cleansing (which many seem to support) or by changing (which isn’t very popular).
I’ve traveled to Israel in the past and found it horrific. This is not some extension of America that so many would like people to believe. I’d offer a more apt description but it’d surely get me banned...
China and India have very sucessful economies. The Muslim world WILL colasped because of its own weight.
Star Traveler reminds me of someone.....er I think it is Shep ‘cry-me-a-river’ Smith.
You said — Star Traveler reminds me of someone.....er I think it is Shep ‘cry-me-a-river’ Smith.
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I’m sorry, but I can’t respond to Mr. Anonymous... LOL...
But, aside from that... those Muslim Demographics are pretty impressive, actually. And for me..., it just means that certain things that the Bible talks about is coming pretty quickly...
Amen to that.
‘Matthew Weaver’ appears to especially hate the Israeli Jews and Yugoslavian Serbs. I think this ‘freeper’ is pretty much poisoned by the Leftview.
t’d be the same if we in the US allowed a religious group redefine the country as, for example, a Baptist state, then expected everybody to conform. It wouldn’t happen any more than Israel’s attempt to make a Jewish state upon land of mixed religions.
Please stop wasting our time and embarrassing yourself until you learn some facts about Israel.
It is bloody now, and will be worse as long as the current regime imposes itself upon Christian and Muslim—seizing lands, and worse.
What lant has it siezed since 1979? It has been giving up territory.
. Yes, it is Christians being oppressed just as much as Muslim, even if not getting the same headlines
Please do try to justify that.
. Israel practices apartheid and can only survive through ethnic cleansing (which many seem to support) or by changing (which isn’t very popular).
Isn't that what you want, the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria?
I’ve traveled to Israel in the past and found it horrific. This is not some extension of America that so many would like people to believe. I’d offer a more apt description but it’d surely get me banned...
Did you go with a marxist group, a Muslim group, or with theological anti-Zionists? I too have been there and know that you are ignorant.
I would not be suprised if he has not internalized Fannonite beliefs.
He is just telling it like it is.
As Bibi says, let’s keep it in the simplest of terms.
The Palestinians and the Arabs want the Jews dead, and to confiscate their land.
The only peace they will offer is a hudna, a treacherous “peace” that is only a truce while they build up for their “final solution”.
Good for Bibi for saying the truth. And we need to tell our families and friends the truth as well, for Israel will need all the friends it can get with Hussein in the White House.
Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Achmydinnerjacket has once again declared he will wipe Isreal off the face of the earth. He,as with the Chia Pet in North Korea, have to be confronted and stopped. That will not be accomplished with negotiations—only with force.
I stand with Israel.
“Achmydinnerjacket”
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I prefer “Ima-nut-job”.... LOL...
Full transcript of Netanyahu’s speech, thanks to Jet Jaguar.
Well, yesterday Obama said that an attack on Israel by Iran won’t be considered an attack on the US, so I think he’s already answered the question. As for Obama getting Bibi out of office? He’s going to have enough on his plate trying to appease his Muslim masters, frankly...
The Israeli people support Bibi’s vision, they do NOT support Obama’s vision, so unless Obama is going to send over a bunch of ACORN voter registrants or something I don’t think that will work.. :)
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